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Offline Pd245

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Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« on: February 03, 2011, 03:31:12 PM »
I know for sure I have a problem with eating grains and sugars, so have been attempting to try the paleo diet. My problem is hunger - I haven't been able to get full on this diet because I haven't been able to process fat very well for many years (I get gas build up and terrible stomach pain), so I can't eat the fat that helps satiate you on this diet.

I get these pains when I eat anything high in fat (except maybe salmon fat) - especially nuts, seeds, uncooked oils, etc. If I eat chicken skin I'll be doubled over hours later (it's not an immediate pain - it's a build up). I don't have celiac or problems with my gall bladder.

So my question is: Is there any way to do this diet in a low fat way? Can I just eat more food more often? Anyone have this issue as well and found a workaround?

Thanks so much.

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 04:34:13 PM »
No, not possible. For people who are overweight, you have to eat fat to get your body to eat its own fat. The energy comes from the body fat and nutritional fat.

What about eating solid coconut oil? I eat a heaping tablespoon a day.


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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 04:50:06 PM »
My digestion issues are very similar to yours.  After eating Paleo for a while my gut healed a bit and now the fats aren't an issue anymore.  I don't recall how long it took ... maybe about 6 months?

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 05:47:55 PM »
You can probably survive on lean meat and fruit, but finding a fat you can handle would be better.  Are animal fats problematic?

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 06:51:36 PM »
I can do a bit of red meat fat, salmon, and ground flax seeds. I can also tolerate fish oil supplements. I have not tried eating coconut oil. That scare the bejeezus out of me but I could try a little at a time and see how it goes!

It's really good to know other people have this issue, and have gotten better.

I guess I should review previous posts to see how much fat is required to feel full. I'm thinking whatever I do will still be considered low fat.

I'm not overweight so I'm not sure how that affects the fat requirements/fat burning you speak about, DTSMA68.  I'm assuming I still need fat for the energy.

Thanks four all your advice! I really hope I can do this diet. When I eat carbs - particularly rice - I get really hysterical (like I've had 2 cups of coffee), and then I crash and have to take a nap. Then the headache. Not good.




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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 08:01:58 PM »
Hey Pd245.

 Gas builup is becuse of fermenting carbohydrates. Fat cant ferment and if im right it actually chokes out excess bacteria in the small intestine. But eat fat wich is slow digesting and then eat carbs like fruit  after and your looking at the slow digesting fat holding up the faster moving carbs in the intestine and leaving them too ferment with no way out. Trouble... lol

 
 Im the same as you when It comes too nuts and even nut oils. Is it the lectins.... could be.Flax seed oil Im suss on because of the lectin content and that bitter taste ain't nutural.  Like you I find salmon fat particularly digestable. Just two days ago I did a round of the local fish shops and at the fith one I found they trimm off the salmon belly fat   and sell it cheaper @ 5$ per kilo. She said she'd be happy to freeze it for me. Im pretty stoked cause theres a good kilo of 50% fat fish meat every week on the cheap. Saves me from having to eat vegie oils and on current theories betters the all important omega 3-6 ratio.

 Even being on paleo "half arsed" in the last fortnight Ive surprised myself in that I "can" actually digest this fat and and loads of it. Only If I stay paleo though. I laugh at how much fat ive been eating lately and how Im still alive and feeling better lol. JUst leave out the fruit and starches for a bit are my thoughts. PLenty of leafy greens and low starch veggies seem to work well for me. Fats the only thing that will help you through paleo imo. Its either that or starches and sugars which will only damage you sooner than later

Theres the thoughts of a nube for ya  ;D

Good luck which ever path you take ;)








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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 01:07:31 AM »
It is pretty much impossible that your gut can't handle animal fat. Maybe try slowly building up the amount?

I'll bet that once you get your diet properly Paleo any issues with digestion will fade away.

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 04:31:30 AM »
I don't think you're the only one.  My step-sister and my father (who aren't paleo) both have similar issues with vegetable fats and oils.  Which, in my stepsister, are much worse if she's been eating grains and legumes

Veg oils are higher in O6 and more inflammatory, which may be part of the issue.  Perhaps try veg + fish + some clean, red, meat and see how that works.

I bet your fat digestion improves if you go on strict paleo and avoid veg oils  :)  good luck! 

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 11:11:52 AM »
Just a note, coconut oil is very silky and pretty tasteless, it's not greasy at all. I'm assumin that's what is making u apprehensive? But obviously above all else hopefully you will adapt like everybody's saying. Your gut flora has gotta be all outta whack.



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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 01:43:38 PM »
what happens when you eat eggs?

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 02:08:07 PM »
I can't think of any physiological causes of pain after eating high fat meals other than gall bladder related issues.

My girlfriend had problems with hers a year or two ago, after high fat meals (chicken skin was a big problem) she would be doubled over in pain, turns out she had gallstones.

She eventually had to have hers removed.

Now though, even without her gall bladder, she has zero issues with high fat paleo meals, chicken skin and all.

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 03:17:07 PM »
Thanks for your posts.

I do just fine eating eggs. They don't last long though - I'm hungry 1-2 hrs after eating them. But I completely tolerate them. I had some this morning with ground-up chicken, sage and thyme. Yummy.

I think I'm scared of trying the coconut oil just because I'm used to fat making me sick. So I could try a little and see how it goes.

My gut flora is probably very out of whack, yes, bc of chronic sinus infections and having to take antibiotics for them a couple of times a year. I take lots of probiotics, though. Besides carb intolerance, the other main reason I want to try this diet is because I've heard it's helped cure some people of their sinus issues and ease their allergy symptoms. I'm really, really hoping it'll help with this never-ending infection!

One doctor said that I could have very slow emptying of the stomach - I think it's called
gastroparesis, but this is not verified. I also have been diagnosed with GERD. Maybe I'll get a second opinion on my gall bladder just to cover all bases (I had one ultrasound and it looked fine).

But like you're all saying, I hope this problem is caused by grains and will resolve when I get off of them.

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 07:08:31 PM »
If you can tolerate flax seeds then maybe you can tolerate flax oil. I eat only raw vegetables, raw fruits, raw nuts, seeds, berries, and fish. I compensate the lack of fat with flax seed oil and high fat foods such as avocado and coconut. I do not tolerate fat well either. I have been able to consume coconut oil as well. Take care

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2011, 01:34:47 AM »
Coconut oil is processed completely differently by the body. I can't remember where I read this, but it does something different in the liver apparently. So it's worth a try.

Do you take prebiotics along with the probiotics? The are the "food" that help feed the probiotics and enable to thrive.

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Re: Can't tolerate fat - possible to do paleo diet?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 07:58:35 AM »
I can't think of any physiological causes of pain after eating high fat meals other than gall bladder related issues.

Gall bladder problems are definitely a possibility.  If so, the pain should be just above the bottom of the rib cage, on the right side.  I had gallstones which I fixed with a gall bladder flush.

Fatty liver might also be a possibility.