Author Topic: Fructose Malabsorption (Read 2736 times)

bigmike · « **on:** December 13, 2009, 02:05:11 AM »

I've been dealing with IBS-like symptoms for about three years now, and I think that they may be primarily triggered by FM.

If that's the case, I'm really wondering if the Paleo Diet is for me. My #1 motivation to go Paleo was to deal with my IBS issues, and FM would be particularly difficult for me to overcome on this diet since I'm an endurance athlete; I NEED about 100-150g carb a day, minimum for my training. Trouble is, if I'm stuffing my face with 4-5 servings of fruit to get this, my stomach is throwing absolute fits.

Anyone have any advice for me on how to deal with FM on a Paleo Diet while still taking in 100-ish grams of carbs every day? Any fruits out there that have EXTREMELY high glucose-fructose ratios? Should I try *shudder* potatoes??

ajmesa · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2009, 02:28:00 AM »

Easy solution would be to get your carbs from sweet potatoes, plantains, yucca, taro, and other tubers (not white potato or any from the nightshade family). Although I am sure most here would not consider it paleo, I do consider it paleo (Dr. Staffan Lindeberg does as well). Still try to keep it low for best results.

Frida · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2009, 02:33:03 AM »

i too have problems with FM, applejuice and i have the paramedics in the house!

but i can eat berry, pineapple, greapfruit, lemon, lime, rhubarb, kiwi... mandarin i will try this week.
i can tollerate most vegetables, i only get bloated from some of them in large quanitity (leek for example)

i think its about testing out what works for you!

here a list i found on wiki, funny enough all teh fruits i can eat are on the list:

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Favorable foods (i.e. fructose equal to or less than glucose)
Stone fruit: apricot, nectarine, peach, plum (caution - these fruit contain sorbitol)
Berry fruit: blueberry, blackberry, boysenberry, cranberry, raspberry, strawberry, loganberry
Citrus fruit: kumquat, grapefruit, lemon, lime, mandarin, orange, tangelo
Other fruits: ripe banana, jackfruit, kiwi fruit, passion fruit, pineapple, rhubarb, tamarillo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose_malabsorption#Diet

marika · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2009, 03:41:22 AM »

I have problems with that too, which is why I removed fruits and veggies from my diet. I feel 100% better now!! It's so nice to have a flat tummy again and a good digestion!

If you really want to maintain about 100g carbs per day, try chestnuts, or nuts/seeds. Chestnuts are quite carb-y, I've just been eating a few with each meal and I've been ending up with roughly 100g carbs per day too.

P.S. Just a note: the stone fruit listed and that warning about sorbitol was very important to me. I can't eat stone fruits either without problems!

Frida · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2009, 04:43:44 AM »

i agree with sorbitol stay away from it, i had to learn it the hard way when i started low carbing and snacked on atkins products. i lived on the toilet (sorry for the details $:-\$ )

marika · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2009, 04:47:53 AM »

Yes, that Atkins stuff is chock full of evil sorbitol!!

bigmike · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2009, 12:25:58 PM »

Awesome, I'll give it a try. Berries, nuts, citrus, kiwis seem to be my ticket. Thumbs-up.

I really hope it does the trick for me. I really love the energy level, clear skin, and sleep I'm getting on paleo. But the tummy stuff is a major downer. The thing I seem to have least trouble digesting is grains...the more highly processed the better, interestingly enough.

TWS · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2009, 02:22:09 PM »

Quote from: ajmesa on December 13, 2009, 02:28:00 AM

Although I am sure most here would not consider it paleo.....

I'm on your side with this one. I've come to think tubers/roots were a major source of the plant matter in early diets, along with seasonal nuts and, perhaps, some berries. I don't see the return-for-effort in eating green, leafy plants and doubt there was much in that realm consumed. (Just an opinion)

TWS

marika · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2009, 02:44:09 PM »

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The thing I seem to have least trouble digesting is grains...the more highly processed the better, interestingly enough.

Strangely enough, I'm the same way. Although I'm much better off without them entirely!

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I don't see the return-for-effort in eating green, leafy plants and doubt there was much in that realm consumed.

I agree. Especially as one of the womenfolk who historians assumed to be the ones doing the "gathering", I don't think I'd want to waste time trying to find wild broccoli or lettuce. I've never come across it in the forest!

Even if I ever did, it would be nasty and wilted by the time I got back home to the cave.

What I did find quite easily was cattails, and berries in the summer. Acorns too. However, personally I've always come across much more edible fauna than flora, when I've walked in the woods. Frogs and snakes especially!

Frida · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2009, 12:03:50 PM »

Quote from: marika on December 13, 2009, 02:44:09 PM

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The thing I seem to have least trouble digesting is grains...the more highly processed the better, interestingly enough.

Strangely enough, I'm the same way. Although I'm much better off without them entirely!

same for me. wholegrain bread = white bread, no problem. but i'm with marika, i'm better off not having any. brown rice on the otherhand i still have when i have a upset tummy, works just best for me... but i try to stick to wild rice, since it's not a grain, it is a seed.

ajmesa · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:32:41 PM »

Quote from: TWS on December 13, 2009, 02:22:09 PM

Quote from: ajmesa on December 13, 2009, 02:28:00 AM
Although I am sure most here would not consider it paleo.....
... I don't see the return-for-effort in eating green, leafy plants and doubt there was much in that realm consumed. (Just an opinion)

We have to notice that return is not only on a caloric basis. For example, Eskimos throw themselves into cold water in a kayak to collect kelp. The caloric content in return for their effort is very low, but they still do it (other tribes participate in similar activities). This only hints that low-calorie vegetables play a different role not based on caloric contribution. If primitive people go through the trouble of collecting them, I don't see why you wouldn't eat them (unless they cause you problems).

Apart from that, yeah, I don't see why they wouldn't eat tubers as well. The problem is that it is really difficult to find plant matter in caves or near skeletal remaining as they don't conserve well. My guess is that most of them didn't eat them, but the groups living in Africa, where tubers are common, would have definitely had their share.

nodoubt147 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 26, 2009, 10:07:19 AM »

I have issues with this problem as well. If anyone suspects they do, try eating an a large apple and you will be able to tell. It took me a long time to figure this out. I also have an extremely fast metabolism so it is difficult to maintain a healthy female body weight as well. I combine Paleo and Blood Type dieting here. Mostly Paleo I eat mostly fats( olive oil, flax oil, sesame oil, nuts and seeds), a good amount of protein, and mostly low carb cooked vegetables. Almost no fruit, and occasional a gluten-free grain or raw cheese. I noticed that cooking my veggies helps. Also in order for me to keep my carb intake at a healthy enough level for me to keep on weight I will occasional eat a gluten-free grain at night, which also helps keep my moods balanced. I tried doing 100 percent Paleo, and I did well on that but still has issues with bloatings, acne, and my energy levels. I also tried doing 100 percent blood type and still had issues. Combining the two seems to work out really well for me. You just have to learn your body and manipulate your diet. The best thing to do I think, is to take out foods and re-introduce them again and again until you find out what makes you feel best and what makes you feel crappy.

karlin · « **Reply #12 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:13:28 AM »

I have this problem as well. Probably the fruit with the most carbs that I can digest is bananas. I do berries and tubers (not potatoes) for the rest of my carbs (I feel best at 50-100). My diet is boring, but my digestion is super.

I mostly eat meat, fat, carrots, yams, berries, and bananas.

JohnKennL · « **Reply #13 on:** January 27, 2012, 01:38:44 PM »

It's a nice idea. Thanks a lot.

Dingo Boy · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2012, 07:34:24 AM »

Quote from: nodoubt147 on December 26, 2009, 10:07:19 AM

You just have to learn your body and manipulate your diet.

Agree. I also use the BTD guidelines to select variety in my diet. I just started reading the book "The End of Illness" by Dr. David B. Agus. Knowing yourself is a major tenet of his teachings. Haven't gotten very far into the rest yet.

« **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2012, 07:34:24 AM »

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