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Offline jarett88

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How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« on: June 24, 2011, 11:49:32 AM »
without grains...

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 12:43:37 PM »
From what I understand, saturated fat is the primary culprit of high cholesterol. Paleo nutrition emphasizes leaner meats lower in saturated fat (wild game, grass-fed, leaner cuts, fish, etc). These types of meats also have significant amounts of Omega-3's. Also, fresh fruits and vegetables (especially raw) contain fiber just like grain and also contain compounds (like flavonoids, phenols, etc) that have all manner of cardiovascular benefits.

And, in general, if you are working out, building muscle, taking in fewer calories, and lowering your body fat, your cholesterol should decrease as a natural result.


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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 01:08:31 PM »
Wrong. Carbohydrates from grains and sugars, and thus insulin instability, is the underlying cause of high cholesterol. Eating saturated fat, in the absence of carbohydrates, does NOT raise serum cholesterol any significant amount, and more importantly, triglycerides levels will be reduced. The whole, "high serum cholesterol comes from eating saturated fat" myth has been debunked repeatedly and exposed as being based on junk science.

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 01:26:21 PM »
Jay: good to know, thanks. Got any links to any good articles or studies on that?



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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2011, 02:28:02 PM »
Concrete example of raw paleo diet getting the job done: (Lowering Cholesterol)

Lower Cholesterol Levels by 50 points in 2 Weeks By Eating Lots and Lots of Raw Fat and Raw Meat

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2010/11/23/lower-cholesterol-levels-by-50-points-in-2-weeks-by-eating-lots-and-lots-of-raw-fat-and-raw-meat/

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2011, 03:51:07 PM »
Cholesterol levels aren't even a reliable indicator of heart risk from what I understand, there are other more important factors like the particle types and inflammation due to insulin resistence.

I know one athlete who is doing a cyclic ketogenic diet and was recently told by his doctor that his LDL cholesterol levels are 3x the recommended level.  He's not eating paleo, definitely not on his carb loading days, but he's in extremely good shape and in ketosis 5 days a week.

I'm not worried about cholesterol levels alone, myself.

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 07:20:36 PM »
I am asking for a person who's Cholesterol is high and was put on High grain diet just wondered if Paleo could help

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2011, 09:54:18 PM »
I am sure paleo would help lower their risk of heart disease, but it may not lower their total cholesterol if that's what they're interested in. Since going mostly paleo, DH's total cholesterol and LDL have gone up a bit. But his HDL has gone up by more, and his triglycerides are way down, and his weight is dropping fast, so we're confident things are moving in the right direction.

High total cholesterol and low total cholesterol are both associated with slightly higher total mortality, but those stats would have been mostly from people eating the Standard American Diet, ie rubbish. As far as I know there is no research that would indicate what different lipid profiles are associated with in people eating a sugar-free, grain-free diet.

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2011, 09:57:22 PM »
Cholesterol is neccessary and is self regulating - the more you eat the less you make and vice versa. It can only be lowered with drugs (gee golly gosh isn't that just lucky for the drug companies).

Read this guide from MDA. It's put in an easy to understand way.

The important thing is to look at triglycerides.


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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 10:00:06 PM »
You really need to understand how cholesterol works in the body and to understand that athersclerosis in itself does not lead to CVD. This hypostheseis comes from the people who brought us 'fat is bad' and 'if you don't eat breakfast it will wreck your metabolism'.

What is emerging is that sugar consumption may play a large part in our health problems, along with HFCS and all the other crap that people ingest.

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2011, 03:05:05 AM »
I am asking for a person who's Cholesterol is high and was put on High grain diet just wondered if Paleo could help

Paleo diet helped this guy: http://www.myhealthblog.org/2010/11/23/lower-cholesterol-levels-by-50-points-in-2-weeks-by-eating-lots-and-lots-of-raw-fat-and-raw-meat/

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Re: How can ( if it can) paleo lower someones Cholestrol?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2011, 10:24:42 AM »
You really need to understand how cholesterol works in the body and to understand that athersclerosis in itself does not lead to CVD. This hypostheseis comes from the people who brought us 'fat is bad' and 'if you don't eat breakfast it will wreck your metabolism'.

What is emerging is that sugar consumption may play a large part in our health problems, along with HFCS and all the other crap that people ingest.

Exactly, the lipid hypothesis goes hand in hand with Ancel Keys and the anti-fat movement, and is really just a load of BS.  There is no real scientific evidence supporting the assertions that the lipid hypothesis makes.

To eat low carb and high fat is to throw away belief in the lipid hypothesis, you can't eat a low carb diet then turn around and be all "oh well the lipid hypothesis says high LDL cholesterol does this and this...". The two concepts oppose eachother.