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Offline cdewsa4747

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If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« on: February 03, 2017, 08:42:17 AM »
Oil is isolated from whole foods in order for us to have these bottles of it at the store. Sugar is isolated from whole foods in order to have these bags of it at the store. So why do so many people consider oil to be paleo while sugar is not?

Personally I think it's because it's commonly accepted now that processed sugar is unhealthy and certain oils seem to be fine. So it's people calling certain foods paleo because they think they're healthy, NOT because they were eaten in paleolithic times.

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Re: If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2017, 04:02:27 PM »
Sure, to some degree this may be true.

Also, oils are used on salads and to cook meat and vegetables often


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Re: If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2017, 03:30:27 AM »
Oil is not paleo and I've never heard of any of the "experts" claiming it is.

Most "vegetable" oil is manufactured through a complicated refining process, as is sugar. However, cold-pressed or expeller pressed oil is made using a simple mechanical process. While still not technically paleo, many people supplement their fat intake with cold or expeller pressed oils simply because it's often difficult to obtain sufficient amounts of fat from other sources and these oils are minimally processed.

Remember, the paleo diet is an analogue of an ancient diet, not an exact copy of it. We don't have access to the same exact animal or plant based foods people 10,000 years ago had so all we can do today is simulate it as closely as possible with modern food analogues.

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Re: If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 08:38:59 AM »
While still not technically paleo, many people supplement their fat intake with cold or expeller pressed oils simply because it's often difficult to obtain sufficient amounts of fat from other sources and these oils are minimally processed.


How can you not get sufficient amount of fat from whole foods? Meat, fish, eggs, nuts, seeds, avocados, etc.


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Re: If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 11:39:57 AM »
For vegetable oils, you may be right. But hunter-gatherer cultures DID use animal oils for many things.  Alaskan Natives had oil lamps long before the area was colonized, and they also kept seal oil in vials to drink for energy and warmth.  Also, how many people had sugar cane available to process? Sugar for the most part wasn't even available, while some oils may have been.  Squeezing oil out of coconut mash seems more like squeezing oranges for orange juice, than it does factory refined sugar.


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Re: If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 08:22:01 AM »
Alaskan Natives had oil lamps long before the area was colonized, and they also kept seal oil in vials to drink for energy and warmth.

How long ago was that? And does it matter that I'm not Alaskan - meaning, was it specific to their population or would it be a general adaptation across many?

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Re: If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 02:52:42 PM »
How can you not get sufficient amount of fat from whole foods? Meat, fish, eggs, nuts, seeds, avocados, etc.

Because not all of us can or do eat things like nuts, fish, or avocados and all the fat phobia in our society has made many cuts of meat heavily trimmed before being sold. I can't even find 70/30 ground beef most of the time, or even 80/20 in some stores. In some States, you cannot buy fat trimmings from the butcher (aka suet), so getting sufficient amounts of fat can be difficult, or at the least, inconvenient, for many people. Plus, if you can only get grain-finished meat and want to supplement your diet with fat from grass-fed sources, grass-fed butter (for example) is a fairly easy to obtain source.

Offline Warren Dew

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Re: If oil is paleo, then so is processed sugar
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 04:25:43 PM »
Agreed with JayJay.  I find I'm happiest with about 85% of calories from fat.  That's the equivalent of about 66% lean meat.  Bacon is about the only meat that is that fatty, and even bacon is not super strict paleo.

I do save my bacon grease, and I've recently been experimenting with eating more fried mushrooms and onions to use it, but that's extra cooking time.