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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2012, 09:16:46 PM »
Hilarious!
I definitely have to post the version of this on my blog for others...

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2012, 07:51:38 PM »
Such a great chart!


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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2012, 05:08:33 PM »
Flow charts kick ass!!! :D

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2012, 05:43:16 AM »
This is really awesome...

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2012, 06:02:53 AM »
Everything looks fine but as i understand sweet potatoes and butter shouldn't be included in this list.


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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2012, 09:29:29 AM »
I love this chart!

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2012, 11:44:56 AM »
Hah, LOVE it!  "Are you a skinny bastard/ skinny bitch?"  :laugh:

Man day 4 of my return to Paleo living and I already feel like I could kill people with a single punch it's awesome  :laugh:

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2012, 07:37:56 PM »
Keep in mind, nobody is full "Paleo" as shown in the article http://modernpaleodiet.com/2012/07/18/the-beginning-of-the-paleo-diet/ because most everything is at least slightly processed. Technically the air we breathe isn't Paleo. However, it's about striving to get as close as possible to the diet, while maintaining key health.
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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2014, 05:26:04 PM »
I find things to be confusing.  Some say yes you can have this and other sources say no you can not. What is the deal?

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2014, 07:18:25 PM »
The deal is there is no general consensus, thus we are each left to figure it out ourselves.

I seem to have found something that helps me tolerate sweet potatoes, potatoes and other foods of varying carbiness a bit better and improved my blood glucose modulation--foods rich in resistant starch, inulin and other prebiotics, especially the RS. So tubers are now closer to "Paleo"/beneficial for me, though I still generally tolerate raw carbs better than cooked.

Oddly enough, mung beans have so far turned out to be one of my more beneficial foods. I had never heard of them, much less guessed such a thing.
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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2014, 09:55:57 AM »
LOL very interesting way to learn what is Paleo is, thanks for your hard work. This was great.

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2014, 04:33:30 PM »
The chart is a great piece of work that clearly explains the prescribed view of the paleo diet.

However, the diet isn't a true representation of what cave people ate. I particularly dispute legumes and grains, because there's ample evidence they ate these; as do most tribal peoples today.

A very informative page to read about this can be found at - http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/beans-lentils-and-paleo-diet.html - it gives the true picture of the extent of legume and grain use in the eary human diet.

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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2014, 12:54:51 PM »
I love this!! May I ask where you found this? Did you create it?


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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2014, 08:19:48 AM »
The chart is a great piece of work that clearly explains the prescribed view of the paleo diet.

However, the diet isn't a true representation of what cave people ate. I particularly dispute legumes and grains, because there's ample evidence they ate these; as do most tribal peoples today.

A very informative page to read about this can be found at - http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/beans-lentils-and-paleo-diet.html - it gives the true picture of the extent of legume and grain use in the eary human diet.
Yes, it seems that the "Godfather of Paleo," Boyd Eaton, was right to regard legumes as "Paleo," with even Neanderthals having both eaten legumes and grains, as Prof. Guyenet pointed out. I wonder if Prof. Cordain was aware that Hadza hunter gatherers ate legume tubers and seed pods such as Ekwa hasa, Shumuwako, and Mangwala and also tamarind legume fruit when he changed the classification of legumes to not-Paleo and didn't mention these foods?


Image from: Metabolism, Anthropometry and Nutrition Lab, http://2hzaurtpu.site.aplus.net/lab_nma.asp

http://archive.org/stream/WhyTheHadzaAreStillHunter-gatherers/WhyTheHadzaAreStillHunter-gatherers_djvu.txt

Sex Differences in Food Preferences of Hadza Hunter-Gatherers, http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/EP07601616.pdf

That of course doesn't guarantee that those foods were optimal, but the case for regarding these foods as completely unPaleo and avoiding them, particularly legumes, is looking weaker and weaker as evidence accumulates to the contrary. It's no wonder that legumes were the only staple food (aside from water) that was eaten by all 5 Blue Zone populations - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Zone#Characteristics

Update to my earlier comment: I no longer get aches and pains and lower extremity edema from sweet potatoes and tolerate all tubers better since incorporating more fermentable fiber (aka Microbiota Accessible Carbohydrates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbiota_accessible_carbohydrates) in my diet. Trying to do it directly via whole foods high in digestible starch right off the bat didn't work--even gradually--but starting out with sources high in RS and low in digestible starch (such as dried green plantains, green bananas and mung bean starch) did enable me to gradually incorporate more whole food sources over time. I'm not prescribing that, just sharing my experience. I suspect that the reason certain tubers and legumes had been such a problem for me in the past was largely due to subpar GI microbiome.
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Re: Is it Paleo? (flowchart)
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2014, 12:29:16 AM »
The Hadza have lived in close proximity to agrarian populations for generations and trade for much of their food.  Hunter gatherers in general are not great models for paleolithic peoples, but the Hadza are particularly bad.

Legumes are one source of vegetable nutrition that is clearly ruled out in any significant quantity from our actual diet in the paleolithic by bone isotope studies.  The isotope studies show that less than 5%, and most likely 0%, of protein in the paleolithic diet came from vegetable sources.  Since legumes are high in plant proteins, there's no room for them in the actual paleolithic data.