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Opinions on Atkins
« on: July 10, 2016, 02:37:59 AM »
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Hi Guys,

I was wondering what the general consensus is for Atkins? I'm not planning on going on it, but I remember it being all the rage in the 2000s (although this was only transferred to me via TV shows mentioning it!). Has it been discredited? Do people still use it? What positives and negatives should we take from it going forward if it really is "dead"?

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Re: Opinions on Atkins
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2016, 04:40:54 AM »
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Hi Guys,

I was wondering what the general consensus is for Atkins? I'm not planning on going on it, but I remember it being all the rage in the 2000s (although this was only transferred to me via TV shows mentioning it!). Has it been discredited? Do people still use it? What positives and negatives should we take from it going forward if it really is "dead"?

Thanks,
Cowlean

Well, for what i know, since Atkins, of the very low carb diets that gained such popularity there was only Dukan. Dukan (named after French Dr who came up with it) is like Atkins sans fat, but with added diary. It's way harder than Atkins, btw.
Basically, if you are low-carbing, most of the differences among various ways of eating come down to differences in the fat and diary intake.
In the low carb communities Atkins is still popular (esp. the earlier/ original version which doesn't allow protein bars and alike) and it overleaps with Paleo to big extent.





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Re: Opinions on Atkins
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2016, 01:39:36 PM »
From the anecdotal evidence around me; Atkins seems to still be popular. I think it went through a period when it's popularity waned, but seems like some repackaging or adjustments have been made and it picked up again. Anyhow, Atkins focused specifically on keeping an extremely low carb intake, which seemed like a lifestyle change that was difficult to sustain (especially for those eating a typical western diet). As such, the people I know personally seem to use it for short term weight loss; like I need to lose 10 pounds to go to this wedding or class reunion, etc.

There's some overlap with Paleo, but the list of items considered healthy fats on Atkins include cooking oils that should be avoided on paleo, as well as mayo. Here's a link to atkins approved foods: https://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/library/articles/paleo-and-atkins-how-the-diets-stack-up-with-one-another

After all these years people seem to still view paleo as a low carb lifestyle (to which I would disagree), which is why I think its compared to Atkins so much.

I'm not sure that there are specific pros and cons to Paleo or Atkins that are universal. I think everyone has to determine what eating methodology works best with their body and adjust accordingly. Maybe it's paleo, keto, atkins, etc. or some hybrid, but food & lifestyle are not one size fits all.

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Re: Opinions on Atkins
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2016, 10:44:15 PM »
From a practical standpoint, many people find Atkins induction (Atkins phase one) similar to Paleo.  The main differences are that Atkins permits high fat dairy and Paleo does not, and Paleo permits fruit and Atkins does not.  Usually people who are on Atkins find it easy to switch to Paleo.

Atkins has been shown to be better for weight loss than several other diets it was compared to, not including paleo.  Paleo has been shown to be better for weight loss than at least one other diet.

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Re: Opinions on Atkins
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2016, 10:45:22 PM »
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Hi Guys,

I was wondering what the general consensus is for Atkins? I'm not planning on going on it, but I remember it being all the rage in the 2000s (although this was only transferred to me via TV shows mentioning it!). Has it been discredited? Do people still use it? What positives and negatives should we take from it going forward if it really is "dead"?

Thanks,
Cowlean

Well, for what i know, since Atkins, of the very low carb diets that gained such popularity there was only Dukan. Dukan (named after French Dr who came up with it) is like Atkins sans fat, but with added diary. It's way harder than Atkins, btw.
Basically, if you are low-carbing, most of the differences among various ways of eating come down to differences in the fat and diary intake.
In the low carb communities Atkins is still popular (esp. the earlier/ original version which doesn't allow protein bars and alike) and it overleaps with Paleo to big extent.
Out of curiosity, what makes Dukan so hard?


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Re: Opinions on Atkins
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2016, 07:17:18 AM »
I'm certainly no expert, but I seem to recall it falling out of favor because as soon as you stopped the diet you would balloon back up and sometimes even heavier than you were. I feel like it's been written off as a fad diet.

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Re: Opinions on Atkins
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 08:50:23 PM »
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Hi Guys,

I was wondering what the general consensus is for Atkins? I'm not planning on going on it, but I remember it being all the rage in the 2000s (although this was only transferred to me via TV shows mentioning it!). Has it been discredited? Do people still use it? What positives and negatives should we take from it going forward if it really is "dead"?

Thanks,
Cowlean

Well, for what i know, since Atkins, of the very low carb diets that gained such popularity there was only Dukan. Dukan (named after French Dr who came up with it) is like Atkins sans fat, but with added diary. It's way harder than Atkins, btw.
Basically, if you are low-carbing, most of the differences among various ways of eating come down to differences in the fat and diary intake.
In the low carb communities Atkins is still popular (esp. the earlier/ original version which doesn't allow protein bars and alike) and it overleaps with Paleo to big extent.
Out of curiosity, what makes Dukan so hard?

It's 0 fat and no veggies during the induction (up to 10 days) and later on, every second day  :( Basically, it's non-fat meat, like chicken breasts, baked or cooked without any fat, or some non-fat fish and diary that's up to 0.2% of fat.
Dr Dukan did an interesting thing, he adapted his book for various countries, so it differs from country to country; American and Russian version are very different, where Russian is more strict (that's the one i kept because i lived in Russia at the time.)
In fact, wasn't i taking Reduxine ( legal in Eastern Europe, but for what i know banned in USA) i don't think i could have kept that diet at all.

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Re: Opinions on Atkins
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2016, 01:56:49 AM »
Can someone explain what Reduxine is?

Also, could someone quickly run through the Atkins diet?

Is it possible that the diets named after Doctors are more likely to be labelled as fads because people think they only represent someone's opinion? I don't see as many people poo-pooing the Mediterranean diet...