Author Topic: Pork, the other white meat or not??  (Read 3815 times)

Offline jcarbon2

  • Private
  • *
  • Posts: 18
  • Karma: 0
    • View Profile
    • Email
Pork, the other white meat or not??
« on: September 01, 2010, 05:25:56 AM »
Guys,

I have been thinking if Pork is NOT such a great addition to my diet. Are there any reasons (other than religious) to avoid pork?? Any advantages over red meat??

Thanks,

John

Offline CaveBearClanGirl

  • Sergeant
  • **
  • Posts: 90
  • Karma: -4
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 05:43:20 AM »
I don't eat pork and I never would.  I don't consider it fit for human consumption.  Pigs are disgusting, they eat anything, and there are numerous videos on the internet showing the worms in pork flesh.  People get a piece of pork and pour coca-cola on it, wait about 5 minutes and all of the worms in the pork flesh wriggle to the surface.  It's sick.  If you eat other meat I'm sure you can get everything you need, there isn't any reason to eat pork unless you really love it and eat it for the pleasure I guess.

Offline jcarbon2

  • Private
  • *
  • Posts: 18
  • Karma: 0
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 05:59:19 AM »
I don't eat pork and I never would.  I don't consider it fit for human consumption.  Pigs are disgusting, they eat anything, and there are numerous videos on the internet showing the worms in pork flesh.  People get a piece of pork and pour coca-cola on it, wait about 5 minutes and all of the worms in the pork flesh wriggle to the surface.  It's sick.  If you eat other meat I'm sure you can get everything you need, there isn't any reason to eat pork unless you really love it and eat it for the pleasure I guess.

Thanks!! Might not been then most scientific reply but it sure made a point with the coca-cola. LOL.


Offline Warren Dew

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 4560
  • Karma: 333
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 06:29:47 AM »
You can get various kinds of "worms" in any kind of meat.  You can also get them in fruit, nuts, etc.

I've personally found them in fish, fruit, and nuts, though the ones in fruit and nuts are probably safe to eat.

There's no rational reason not to eat pork.  There is reason to cook fish, pork, and chicken well done.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 06:31:47 AM by Warren Dew »

Offline samjohn

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 2479
  • Karma: 150
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 06:41:53 AM »
I don't eat pork and I never would.  I don't consider it fit for human consumption.  Pigs are disgusting, they eat anything, and there are numerous videos on the internet showing the worms in pork flesh.  People get a piece of pork and pour coca-cola on it, wait about 5 minutes and all of the worms in the pork flesh wriggle to the surface.  It's sick.  If you eat other meat I'm sure you can get everything you need, there isn't any reason to eat pork unless you really love it and eat it for the pleasure I guess.

Ridiculous.

Pigs are extremely fastidious creatures when given opportunity to live that way. They take far more care to separate themselves from their own waste than cows or chicken do. That unscrupulous people farm pigs intensively is no reason to brand the pigs disgusting rather than the methods used to farm them.

Any animal raised in poor conditions will suffer for it. If you feel that way about pork, you definitely should not be eating chicken. Unless it is pastured and organic, but the same would apply to 'disgusting' pigs.

Btw the coke + pork = worms videos were faked, it took 30 seconds research to find that out.  And - http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/porkworm.asp
« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 06:47:57 AM by samjohn »
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

Offline CaveBearClanGirl

  • Sergeant
  • **
  • Posts: 90
  • Karma: -4
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 08:28:29 AM »
Pork contains more parasites than any other meat.  You can easily google a list of them.  Pigs will even eat human excrement if it's there.  If you believe that pork is good to eat, that's your choice but it sounds like jcarbon doesn't really want to eat it anyway.  His main question was does pork have any advantages over red meat.  Well, pork is red meat anyway.  In the 80's there was an advertising campaign calling pork "the other white meat" to try and raise sales, but it is actually red meat according to people such as the FFA.  I can't think of any additional benefit you'd get from eating pork that you wouldn't get from other meats.  There have also been numerous reports in america of people getting worms in their brain from eating pork.  There are videos of the surgery to remove the worms and fox news reports about it.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 08:43:37 AM by CaveBearClanGirl »

Offline el cogollero

  • Captain
  • ***
  • Posts: 558
  • Karma: 16
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 08:48:36 AM »
hmm - but red meat is good though no?

Pig meat in all its myriad forms is hugely popular here in Spain - even today a lot of country people keep one pig a year and the whole extended family get together for the butchering and the making of the various cuts and sausages etc.

I eat it all the time and always have done - I'll leave you with the moment that Lisa declares her vegetarianism.....

Homer: Are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal.
Homer: Heh heh heh. Ooh, yeah, right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal. 

Offline Bearso

  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1029
  • Karma: 104
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2010, 10:51:08 AM »
Nothing wrong with PORK in fact PORK is wonderful!!!  I say HOGWASH to poring coke on pork to see worms crawl out.  I will thaw out a piece of pork tonight and do this myself to see if worm crawl out....  While the internet is a wonderful thing, don't believe everything your read or see.  Some people have an aversion to meats of all kinds an will stop at nothing to cowerers others to see it in a bad light too.
No expectations, no disappointments!

Offline samjohn

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 2479
  • Karma: 150
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2010, 01:43:49 AM »
Pork contains more parasites than any other meat.  You can easily google a list of them.  Pigs will even eat human excrement if it's there.  If you believe that pork is good to eat, that's your choice but it sounds like jcarbon doesn't really want to eat it anyway.  His main question was does pork have any advantages over red meat.  Well, pork is red meat anyway.  In the 80's there was an advertising campaign calling pork "the other white meat" to try and raise sales, but it is actually red meat according to people such as the FFA.  I can't think of any additional benefit you'd get from eating pork that you wouldn't get from other meats.  There have also been numerous reports in america of people getting worms in their brain from eating pork.  There are videos of the surgery to remove the worms and fox news reports about it.

And yet you'll eat chicken.

The problem is intensive farming techniques, not the animal.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2010, 04:55:45 AM by samjohn »
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

Offline ajmesa

  • Major
  • ***
  • Posts: 844
  • Karma: 3
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2010, 01:50:38 PM »
I don't eat pork and I never would.  I don't consider it fit for human consumption.
Reason #1:
A caveman would have hunted the crap out of a properly raised (wild) pork, thus it is fit for human consumption.
Reason #2:
It's delicious.
Right Now.

Offline phrakture

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1275
  • Karma: 64
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 02:49:45 PM »
You can get various kinds of "worms" in any kind of meat.  You can also get them in fruit, nuts, etc.

You can get it from WATER.



Offline Stabby

  • Corporal
  • *
  • Posts: 26
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2010, 05:31:17 PM »
I'm not sure about the omega 6 content on pastured pork, but it is likely to be a lot higher than beef. Beef doesn't ever have much omega 6 no matter what you feed it but pork that has been fed grains has tons, I definitely wouldn't eat that very often. Feed it something better and it will be healthier although I'm not sure by how much.

Offline Warren Dew

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 4560
  • Karma: 333
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2010, 07:45:16 PM »
Pork tends to be higher in both omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids than beef; pork fat is just less saturated.

Offline Lychee

  • Private
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • Karma: 0
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2010, 08:24:16 PM »
Pork contains more parasites than any other meat.  You can easily google a list of them.  Pigs will even eat human excrement if it's there.  If you believe that pork is good to eat, that's your choice but it sounds like jcarbon doesn't really want to eat it anyway.  His main question was does pork have any advantages over red meat.  Well, pork is red meat anyway.  In the 80's there was an advertising campaign calling pork "the other white meat" to try and raise sales, but it is actually red meat according to people such as the FFA.  I can't think of any additional benefit you'd get from eating pork that you wouldn't get from other meats.  There have also been numerous reports in america of people getting worms in their brain from eating pork.  There are videos of the surgery to remove the worms and fox news reports about it.

You really should do more research before you make a post. The only way a person can develop a pork tapeworm  is if the pork is under-cooked. If you cook it properly then you are fine.

Offline sparrow

  • Captain
  • ***
  • Posts: 625
  • Karma: 28
    • View Profile
Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 08:33:41 PM »
Chickens are majorly nasty animals, at least per my dad who spent part of his childhood on a farm (those chickens were kept in a coop, which probably makes a difference).  Just because pigs can scavenge and eat certain things doesn't mean that free range, pastured pigs WILL eat those things, especially if given a good diet.  I doubt many farmers are pooping in the pig pens.

In the U.S. anyway, trichinellosis/trichinosis, the main pork nasty you hear about, isn't really a problem anymore since they changed feeding restrictions.  Freezing will fix that one, as will thorough cooking.  Per the CDC, "Cases are less commonly associated with pork products and more often associated with eating raw or undercooked wild game meats."

In my googling I saw one site that said that only 7% of foodborne illnesses in the U.S. were linked to pork, but it didn't have a reference so I don't know if that's accurate.

I'd say go for the pork if it's from a source you trust.  Freeze it beforehand if you're concerned.  For what it's worth, my dog has eaten raw pork and venison, after freezing, on multiple occasions and is parasite free.

Perfection is attained by slow degrees; it requires the hand of time. Voltaire

CAVEMANforum - The most popular Paleo diet and caveman exercise discussion site

Re: Pork, the other white meat or not??
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 08:33:41 PM »