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Offline LisaLynn

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Hi guys,

I need some lard and found some in my grocery store.  Have any of you heard of this brand and if so what do you think of it?  http://www.farmerjohn.com/Products/Product.aspx?ProductId=0fe9ead1-3220-405f-ab17-e6fc93112a5f.

I'm a little confused becasue I thought that lard had to be refridgerated, but this is just sitting on the grocery store shelf.  Also, the small version of it has BHT http://www.farmerjohn.com/Products/Product.aspx?ProductId=89533dcb-cdaa-471b-b77c-99f5e8bbda3f, where as the large doesn't.  

If this isn't good, wherecan I get some good, cheap lard?  I called the local Whole Foods, they don't carry it.

Edit:  Also, are Eggslands Best eggs really better than other eggs?  I got some regular eggs 2 days ago and tried them again.  I have had serious issues with eggs ever since about June when I started throwing them up.  It seems that I can eat them again, haven't had any problems the past 2 days.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2009, 02:37:26 PM by LisaLynn »

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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store.
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 02:37:35 PM »
If it isn't refrigerated it isn't good. Grassfed lard is what you should get. Try to find a farm near you, http://www.eatwild.com/


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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store.
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 02:44:37 PM »
If it isn't refrigerated it isn't good. Grassfed lard is what you should get. Try to find a farm near you, http://www.eatwild.com/

What is it about refrigerating that makes it better?  Also, they say theirs isn't hydrogenated, if that makes a difference.

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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store. Oh, eggs, too.
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 04:34:21 PM »
Most unrefrigerated lard is hydrogenated, partially hydrogenated or has other oils mixed in. Farmer John lard is available in the refrigerated section of my local Von's (owned by Safeway) but has citric acid and BHT added, but is not hydrogenated.

BHT is an organic compound antioxidant food additive. (organic compound in chemistry not to be confused with organically grown)

BHT has been claimed by one doctor to cause hyperactivity in children. There are some claims it can increase cancer risk.  But, others actually take BHT in capsule form sold in health food stores. 

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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store. Oh, eggs, too.
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 06:08:54 PM »
Most unrefrigerated lard is hydrogenated, partially hydrogenated or has other oils mixed in. Farmer John lard is available in the refrigerated section of my local Von's (owned by Safeway) but has citric acid and BHT added, but is not hydrogenated.

BHT is an organic compound antioxidant food additive. (organic compound in chemistry not to be confused with organically grown)

BHT has been claimed by one doctor to cause hyperactivity in children. There are some claims it can increase cancer risk.  But, others actually take BHT in capsule form sold in health food stores. 

Didn't know that about BHT.  Thank you Paleo Dude!


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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store. Oh, eggs, too.
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 03:22:37 AM »
Also as mentioned, grassfed/pastured lard is better as it naturally has a much better omega 6:3 ratio and more nutrients.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/farming/splendor.html

The fat-soluble vitamins (vitamin A, vitamin D and vitamin K2/activator X), which occur in the fat of grass-fed animals, support endocrine function and protect against inflammation.

Re: eggs; same thing; you want to get local, pastured eggs. Find out if the chickens live outside and get to peck at grubs. Pastured eggs will have a naturally great omega 6:3 ratio and far more nutrients. The difference is really amazing:
   
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/05/pastured-eggs.html
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Vitamin D (per 2 eggs):
    * Conventional: 34 IU
    * Pastured avg: 136 - 204 IU

http://www.eatwild.com/healthbenefits.htm

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Eggs from hens raised outdoors on pasture have from three to six times more vitamin D than eggs from hens raised in confinement. Pastured hens are exposed to direct sunlight, which their bodies convert to vitamin D and then pass on to the eggs.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2009, 03:27:06 AM by marika »

Offline LisaLynn

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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store. Oh, eggs, too.
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 08:38:41 AM »
Also as mentioned, grassfed/pastured lard is better as it naturally has a much better omega 6:3 ratio and more nutrients.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/farming/splendor.html

The fat-soluble vitamins (vitamin A, vitamin D and vitamin K2/activator X), which occur in the fat of grass-fed animals, support endocrine function and protect against inflammation.

Re: eggs; same thing; you want to get local, pastured eggs. Find out if the chickens live outside and get to peck at grubs. Pastured eggs will have a naturally great omega 6:3 ratio and far more nutrients. The difference is really amazing:
   
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/05/pastured-eggs.html
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Vitamin D (per 2 eggs):
    * Conventional: 34 IU
    * Pastured avg: 136 - 204 IU

http://www.eatwild.com/healthbenefits.htm

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Eggs from hens raised outdoors on pasture have from three to six times more vitamin D than eggs from hens raised in confinement. Pastured hens are exposed to direct sunlight, which their bodies convert to vitamin D and then pass on to the eggs.

Thanks Marika!  Unfortunately due to my small budget and the fact that I live in the middle of a desert, local, pastured anything is pretty much out for me, otherwise I would.  I checked Eat Wild and the closest farm to me is a 10 hour, nearly 500 mile drive.  I'm having to rely solely on grocery store items.

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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store. Oh, eggs, too.
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 08:02:02 PM »
If this isn't good, wherecan I get some good, cheap lard?  I called the local Whole Foods, they don't carry it.

Some Whole Foods do a bit of onsite butchering/trimming and will just give you the fat scraps for free if you ask.  Then you can make your own lard.  :)  I did that when I lived in Seattle - just had to let the guys know a day in advance so they saved the trimmings for me rather than just throw them out.  If you don't want to feel super weird just tell them it's for your dog.   ;)

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Re: Question about some lard I found in my grocery store. Oh, eggs, too.
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 08:23:01 PM »
Thanks Kallyn! I am going to try that. I don't have much grass fed/pastured anything in my reach except for ground beef.

As for eggs, try different kinds and get the ones with the brightest yolks. The chicken eggs have more vitamin A (which gives it the orange color) when the chickens have been running around outside.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 08:26:13 PM by klcarbaugh »