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Offline Lovingmyself1985

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Soy sauce is in everything!!!
« on: June 17, 2015, 09:47:10 AM »
So, as far as I understand it, Paleo does not allow for soy beans but every damn marinade I want to use has soy sauce in it. My question is this, is soy sauce ok because it is a fermented product or is it out because it is bean based? If it is out, does anyone know an acceptable(and hopefully tasty) substitutes for said sauce?

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Re: Soy sauce is in everything!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2015, 06:26:51 PM »
Soy sauce is not paleo, but it's  not as bad as some cheats.  Personally I would try to shift to using salt instead of marinades, with appropriate recipe changes.


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Re: Soy sauce is in everything!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 06:42:13 AM »
I make my own marinades and rubs. Almost everything sold in a bottle has some type of soy and some form of sugar.

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Re: Soy sauce is in everything!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 06:55:25 PM »
I make my own marinades and rubs. Almost everything sold in a bottle has some type of soy and some form of sugar.
Share some recipes?

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Re: Soy sauce is in everything!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 07:22:06 AM »
I did post one recipe for honey-balsamic glazed salmon many moons ago.

http://cavemanforum.com/recipes-and-meal-photos/grilled-honey-balsamic-copper-river-salmon/msg54619

For the most part though, I don't use recipes. I just look at what I have on hand, and make something up. The key is to always have some oil, some acid, salt, flavor (herbs/spices), and sometimes a little something sweet. The idea is to make some version of what is basically a vinaigrette.

Some ingredients I typically use (not all at the same time) are citrus juice, wine, vinegar (sometimes balsamic in small amounts), oil (olive, avocado, or macadamia), salt, brewed coffee (yes, you read that right), ground pepper, rosemary, thyme, garlic, onion, herbs de Provence (which is a mixture of common herbs plus lavender and is great on fish), and honey if I want some sweet and I'm not getting any from citrus or balsamic. I will also use a little liquid smoke in some marinades if I intend to grill the meat and want a bold smoky flavor that is difficult to achieve on a gas grill. All of this usually gets watered down as well.

A good chimichurri is another paleo-friendly alternative.

The beautiful thing about marinades as opposed to sauces is that a marinade will impart nice flavors into the food but most of it goes down the drain and not in your stomach. While I go to great lengths to avoid certain highly offensive, non-paleo things like soy and corn syrup, I don't worry too much about things like vinegar, wine or brewed coffee in marinades. Very little of it is consumed and what you do eat is fairly inert on a paleo diet.


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Re: Soy sauce is in everything!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2015, 09:13:09 AM »
I think the general consensus is that fermented versions of foods are okay, even if the non-fermented versions are not paleo, but you should employ them in extreme moderation. And even then only if you have been maintaining your target weight. During the initial weigh-loss run you should avoid them entirely. I myself however do try to avoid soy completely. It is tough because its everywhere and sometimes it is unavoidable when eating out, but just do your best.

I keep a bottle of fish sauce in my refrigerator and when I need to add an Asian flavor to something I usually just use fish sauce, ginger, and a dash of toasted sesame seeds, and leave out the soy sauce altogether.