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Offline scottbushey

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #90 on: May 19, 2011, 12:58:28 PM »
The best bet in regards to Vit D consumption should be based upon a lab test; Vitamin D; 25Hydroxy. This way you can gauge how much D you actually need. For instance, one should be around 60. When I tested initially I was below 30. I started 5k iu daily. Last test 45. I increased to 10k iu daily.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #91 on: June 23, 2011, 10:22:38 AM »
how much do we retain as humans? 5000 sounds a bit excessive. per day?

I'm taking 6000 IU's daily!


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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #92 on: June 24, 2011, 01:21:09 PM »
Eat more salmon. Here's an awesome VD article:
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=110

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #93 on: August 29, 2011, 11:26:26 AM »
I received the following from a healthy eating mailing list I'm on. I haven't watched the videos myself yet, but the summary points look useful.

There are 5 videos of 15 minutes each.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7cbBB1c0IM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7cbBB1c0IM&feature=related

In a nutshell, Dr Gominak says that adequate levels of vitamin D are required for good quality sleep, along with adequate B12 and ferritin.

B12 should be at least 500 pg/mL. If less, take 1000 mcg daily.

Vitamin D should be 60-80 nmol/L Check it several times a year as it will vary from summer to winter. Take D3 not D2 to supplement.

Ferritin - something like 70-90 mcg/L for a woman and more like 150 mcg/L for a man.

Good levels are necessary so the body can switch to the repair phase during sleep when growth hormone is released. Basically, it is this deep sleep that allows healing so the quality of sleep is most important.

Vitamin D can be made from cholesterol in the skin under sunshine. Dr Gominak says that often when vitamin D levels are too low, cholesterol is too high - interesting!

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2011, 05:41:26 AM »
I've been reading this topic with interest, as I have an interesting story to tell about vitamin D.  In 2008 I was diagnosed with vit. D deficiency;  my number was only 19, with a normal range of 30 to 100.  I was put on 10,000 whatever units they use per day. After 3 months I only went up to 38, which is "normal" but not "optimal".  I never seemed able to get to "optimal" (at least 50), no matter what.  It got into the 40's at one point and my supplements were dropped to 4,000 per day.  It's like both the doctor and I gave up - I'm female and older and obviously unable to properly absorb the supplements OR use the sun (age affects one's ability to convert sunshine to vit. D.)

Fast forward to me using the HCG diet to lose weight in June, immediately followed by me eating primally in July and on.  Both protocols use organic food as much as possible, and both has me eating mostly meat and fish and poultry and veggies and fruit.  My vit. D was tested again end of August, just got results this week.  My doctor said it was the highest vit. D results she has personally seen - 97.  She said that my dietary changes have healed my gut and removed inflammation, making it much better able to absorb the supplements I'm taking.  She wants to test my cholesterol in 6 mos. or so to see what my diet has done for those numbers.  I'm a little worried about that - I've heard that the LDL can go up, although the ratios are better.  But I don't know what she'll think about a higher LDL - mine's already a bit high, before my dietary changes.  Oh well, I'll figure that out when it happens! 


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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #95 on: October 09, 2011, 01:22:01 PM »
Theres a lot useful advice on the new <a href="http://www.apaleocookbook.com/">paleo cookbook</a> . :)


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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #96 on: December 20, 2011, 12:55:00 PM »
Vitamin D is a group of fat-soluble secosteroids. In humans, vitamin D is unique both because it functions as a prohormone and because the body can synthesize it (as vitamin D3) when sun exposure is adequate (hence its nickname, the "sunshine vitamin").

                 Low vitamin D levels are associated with some cancers. When supplementation is used to treat people with prostate cancer, however, there does not appear to be a benefit. Results for a protective or harmful effect of vitamin D supplementation in other types of cancer are inconclusive.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2012, 09:42:17 AM »
Here is a great website that should answer all your questions about Vitamin D. 

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1hLMo2CkT6M00HxUGdzQ0BqyqROg41usb53wb1or2uDo

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2012, 04:30:54 PM »
I buy the biggest bottle of vit d liquid I can find online and take 7000IUs or more a day. I don't always remember. Blush

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #99 on: July 22, 2012, 06:38:14 PM »
i'm betting that pill form has limited impact... i focus on eating fish sources and getting sun (I live in Toronto so it takes effort to get enough sun)

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #100 on: October 04, 2012, 07:44:51 PM »
Keep in mind, we are following the paleo diet here. This means we strive to get as close to our Paleolithic Diets as possible.

In the Paleolithic Era, it changed from warm to cool temperatures very frequently (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic)

Obviously we didn't have any Vitamin D supplements in this era, which means during times of frequent overshadowing or lack of sunshine, we went without Vitamin D. I feel a healthy amount of Vitamin D is good. I.E. Go outside at least for a little bit during the daytime. Whether or not the sun is shining, we are still absorbing Vitamin D!!
« Last Edit: October 04, 2012, 10:04:21 PM by samjohn »

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #101 on: October 09, 2012, 08:11:32 AM »
I recommend my patients take 5000-10000 IU/day and I myself take that much in the winter time.

Also, as far as cost goes, Vitamin D3 is a very cheap supplement (like Vit C). I buy a very high quality Vitamin D3 (www.innatechoice.com) and I love it! It's only $20 for a months supply at 10,000 IU. One bottle lasts the entire summer, because I'm outside so much. You can find even cheaper, but make sure you are not sacrificing for quality. You can take pills, but the D3 I take is in a liquid form (in olive oil). It literally makes me feel good as soon as I take it.

Enjoy a little extra D3!

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #102 on: September 15, 2013, 06:29:56 AM »
I've had issues with Vit D3 and thought I'd post this in case anyone else has experienced this issue.

I had my blood test for the D3 and was at 18. I followed my doctors advice and supplemented with 6,000 IUs a day of D3 but after 6 months my repeat test only reached 27.  My doctor increased the dose to 11,000 IUs a day and within several months I developed arrhythmias (number now at 35).   They got so bad I thought I was going to die.  I thought about what had changed recently and it was the D3 dosage so I stopped the supplements.  About 11 days later, the arrhythmias began to subside and by day 14 of no D3 they stopped. After several months I noticed my teeth began to ache, my legs got weaker like before when I was at the 18, so I started taking D3 again only at a dose of 5,000 every other day and within a week I was back having arrhythmias. I stopped the D3 again but have been left with intermitant arrhythmias. This drove me to the internet and google where I found articles on D3 deficiency treatment exposing an underlying magnesium deficiency.  The articles said that if you were having a difficult time raising the D3 number and then experienced arrhythmias you could also be deficient in magnesium.  I asked my doctor about this, he did a blood test for serum magnesium and said my numbers were fine.  I know I need the D3.  It's important for immune function, teeth and gum health and if the numbers are right, a deterrent for breast, colon and prostate cancer.  I've begun to take the magnesium despite the blood test and have gotten some relief from the arrhythmias but have not started back on D3.  The articles say to correct the magnesium deficiency BEFORE supplementing with the D3.  I'm now trying to figure out how to know if the magnesium deficiency has been corrected?  I'm also concerned that with all the D3 being added to stuff in a populace of magnesium deficiency, there are going to be way more folks with heart issues.

Anyway, I just wanted to share this in case anyone is having similar issues.  You are not alone.


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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #103 on: December 23, 2013, 12:23:04 AM »
I have a chronic Vitamin D deficiency and am on 4000 IUs per day. At first I found this absolutely bizarre as I live in Southern California...we have greater than 350 "high sun" days per year...I get a tan walking to my mailbox. But apparently there's a tie-in between Vitamin D deficiency (not sure about the correlation, nor whether it's a chicken-or-egg scenario or what) and hypothyroidism, and I am hypo-T. I think many more people are D deficient than realize it.

Yes, I received my Vitamin D level results/information via lab tests. Not self-diagnosed or anything. :p Again, living in SoCal, if anyone had so much as suggested a Vitamin D deficiency for me, I'd have laughed in his or her face. It just happened to come up on routine lab tests.

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Re: Vitamin D
« Reply #104 on: December 23, 2013, 01:49:01 AM »
My first test put me at 7. After taking supplements it went up to upper 20's. I have not had it checked in awhile and don't remember to take it. Might give it another try. The sun actually does not always agree with me.