Author Topic: Squats causing back pain  (Read 2885 times)

Offline Eric

  • President
  • Administrator
  • Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 623
  • Karma: 235
    • View Profile
    • CAVEMANFORUM
Squats causing back pain
« on: April 03, 2011, 07:35:48 AM »
I've been fighting this intermittently the past few years since switching to mainly compound exercises.

At one point 2 doctors diagnosed me with a hernia due to pain in the midsection.  Luckily the surgeon knew better and nixed the hernia idea.

I then realized it was probably my back and starting "hanging" from various bars to relax my spine.

But squats still causing this pain the next day despite believing I have good form.  Wldfg, others any thoughts?

Offline Wlfdg

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1915
  • Karma: 162
  • Rhabdo - Catch it at a Cro$$fit today
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - split.therapy
    • View Profile
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2011, 07:42:38 AM »
Right off I say switch to front squats. Take the pressure off the spine. Add snatch grip deadlifts for your glute & hams.

A better description of the pain please? Where? What kind of pain?
Walking isn't exercise, it's locomotion!
Living for longevity is like fighting for peace.
"Food is fuel! It's not a f***ing theater ticket!" -author unknown
"There is no such thing as “firming and toning.” There is only stronger and weaker" - Mark Rippetoe

Offline Eric

  • President
  • Administrator
  • Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 623
  • Karma: 235
    • View Profile
    • CAVEMANFORUM
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 09:37:22 AM »
Right off I say switch to front squats. Take the pressure off the spine. Add snatch grip deadlifts for your glute & hams.

A better description of the pain please? Where? What kind of pain?

Good suggestions, thanks.  I'll try front squats, keeping it a bit lighter while learning the technique. 

I've already been deadlifting on a 4 inch platform, so looks like going to snatch grip deadlifts will only require a wider grip.  Man, that is quite a wide grip I'm seeing in pictures.

The pain itself is hard to describe; rather dull but varies from minor to medium intensity around the midsection.  I suspect sitting 40 hours a week coupled with heavy weight on shoulders and a bit of genetic back issues could be causing the lower back tightness, which can radiate a bit.

Thinking further, I may have started all this while teaching myself to ski with a non-perfect back posture.  But chicken & egg perhaps..

Offline Wlfdg

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1915
  • Karma: 162
  • Rhabdo - Catch it at a Cro$$fit today
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - split.therapy
    • View Profile
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2011, 06:14:56 PM »
I've already been deadlifting on a 4 inch platform, so looks like going to snatch grip deadlifts will only require a wider grip.  Man, that is quite a wide grip I'm seeing in pictures.
I prefer the snatch grip over lifting off a platform. It feels more stable with the greater range of motion.
You don't need to go collar to collar if you're under 6'.
Walking isn't exercise, it's locomotion!
Living for longevity is like fighting for peace.
"Food is fuel! It's not a f***ing theater ticket!" -author unknown
"There is no such thing as “firming and toning.” There is only stronger and weaker" - Mark Rippetoe

Offline thehebrewhero

  • Sergeant
  • **
  • Posts: 219
  • Karma: 1
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 07:20:47 PM »
Lower back pain sucks.  I used to get it alot when I did construction work.  A Ice then heat combo works great for taking that pain out.  If you can take a break from squats and do leg press for a week or so that might help too.
yaba daba doo

Offline samjohn

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 2479
  • Karma: 150
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2011, 07:26:51 PM »
Not sure if it's relevant but reverse crunches helped me with lower back pain...
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

Offline Wlfdg

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1915
  • Karma: 162
  • Rhabdo - Catch it at a Cro$$fit today
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - split.therapy
    • View Profile
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2011, 09:40:49 PM »
Lower back pain sucks.  I used to get it alot when I did construction work.  A Ice then heat combo works great for taking that pain out.  If you can take a break from squats and do leg press for a week or so that might help too.
Only the infermed should EVER use machines.
Walking isn't exercise, it's locomotion!
Living for longevity is like fighting for peace.
"Food is fuel! It's not a f***ing theater ticket!" -author unknown
"There is no such thing as “firming and toning.” There is only stronger and weaker" - Mark Rippetoe

Offline NutMeg

  • Captain
  • ***
  • Posts: 509
  • Karma: 27
    • View Profile
    • Primal Ponderings- blog
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2011, 10:22:09 PM »
You could try adding some lower abdominal work, specifically for the transverse abdominus.  Even just isometrics are usually enough.
Meghan
Primarily primal :)

Offline Eric

  • President
  • Administrator
  • Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 623
  • Karma: 235
    • View Profile
    • CAVEMANFORUM
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 04:58:18 PM »
I've been doing some weird long distance stuff too for fun occasionally.  Always feels good:  carry 50 lbs for 2 miles

Offline Wlfdg

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1915
  • Karma: 162
  • Rhabdo - Catch it at a Cro$$fit today
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - split.therapy
    • View Profile
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 07:13:21 PM »
I've been doing some weird long distance stuff too for fun occasionally.  Always feels good:  carry 50 lbs for 2 miles
How have you been carrying the weight?
Walking isn't exercise, it's locomotion!
Living for longevity is like fighting for peace.
"Food is fuel! It's not a f***ing theater ticket!" -author unknown
"There is no such thing as “firming and toning.” There is only stronger and weaker" - Mark Rippetoe

Offline ghostman1

  • Sergeant
  • **
  • Posts: 156
  • Karma: 3
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 07:58:24 AM »
Eric i was getting lower back pain when doing squats. So I went out and bought a pair of support shorts. They strenghten your lower back and abdomen. Now I dont get any pain. Give it a try

Offline Wlfdg

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1915
  • Karma: 162
  • Rhabdo - Catch it at a Cro$$fit today
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - split.therapy
    • View Profile
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 08:10:40 AM »
Eric i was getting lower back pain when doing squats. So I went out and bought a pair of support shorts. They strenghten your lower back and abdomen. Now I dont get any pain. Give it a try
"support shorts", belts and wraps don't increase strength. In fact the opposite is true.
Walking isn't exercise, it's locomotion!
Living for longevity is like fighting for peace.
"Food is fuel! It's not a f***ing theater ticket!" -author unknown
"There is no such thing as “firming and toning.” There is only stronger and weaker" - Mark Rippetoe

Offline ghostman1

  • Sergeant
  • **
  • Posts: 156
  • Karma: 3
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 08:28:52 AM »
Yes i know that, but if I hadn't of got them I wouldn't be able to do squats with the pain it was causing. And I always wear a belt when squatting or deadlifting. I squat 290lbs and deadlift 375lbs. Theres no way I am doing that without support

Offline Wlfdg

  • Global Moderator
  • General
  • ****
  • Posts: 1915
  • Karma: 162
  • Rhabdo - Catch it at a Cro$$fit today
    • Yahoo Instant Messenger - split.therapy
    • View Profile
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 08:46:30 AM »
Theres no way I am doing that without support
Lighten the weight and build your own belt with your thoracic stabilizers.
Walking isn't exercise, it's locomotion!
Living for longevity is like fighting for peace.
"Food is fuel! It's not a f***ing theater ticket!" -author unknown
"There is no such thing as “firming and toning.” There is only stronger and weaker" - Mark Rippetoe

Offline Eric

  • President
  • Administrator
  • Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 623
  • Karma: 235
    • View Profile
    • CAVEMANFORUM
Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 06:41:43 PM »
I've been doing some weird long distance stuff too for fun occasionally.  Always feels good:  carry 50 lbs for 2 miles
How have you been carrying the weight?

In front a lot (similar to bear hug), sometimes over head, other times in front in a row position, still other times on a one side of the other alternating arms.

CAVEMANforum - The most popular Paleo diet and caveman exercise discussion site

Re: Squats causing back pain
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 06:41:43 PM »