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Offline NutMeg

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Thoughts and questions
« on: February 02, 2010, 06:57:16 AM »
I have focused so much over the past 4 years on losing weight that I have gotten to focused on teh scale and not as much on the overall body composition.  

I have always done strength training, just not as much as I could.  I want to remedy that.  I am cloe to my goal weight.  I wanted to weigh 150 pounds and I am only 8 pounds away.  But, now I don't care as much about the weight.  I have a new goal.  I want to have a lower BF percentage.  Maybe 20-22%?  I am not sure what exactly I am looking for here.  I definitely want it to be in the healthy range, and I want to have nice sculpted muscles, but not get bulky.

So today I did tabata on the elliptical.  I had to do a full 30 minutes of cardio because of regulations, so I finished the extra time after the tabata.  

I did 2 sets of each of the following:

weighted lunges
bicep curls
tricep extension
push-ups
crunches

I know there is a better way to do this.  I want to focus on my quads.  Of course i want everything to be proportionate, but right now my quads jsut seem so puny compared to my other muscles.  I don't know if that is an after effect of my knee injury a few years ago or not.

So.  Ideas?

Then the question....

What should my heart rate be when I am working out?  It routinely gets up to 180 regardless of how hard I am working, or how I feel.  I was on the ellipitcal a few weeks ago, able to carry on a conversation easily and my HR was 180.  Then doing the tabata this morning, unable to talk, heavy breathing and it was 175. Sometimes it seems like the harder I am working and the more I feel like i am exerting myself, the lower the HR.  When I was in spin last week my average HR was 149 and I felt like I was exerting myself.

 I know health wise I am fine (had a cardiac workup a few years ago for palpitations that were a result of an electrolyte imbalance and possibly from my thyroid).  The doctors have told me as long as it doens't go above 200, which it never does.  But does that sound normal?  According to the HR charts for my age I should be working out at 155 or less.  But if I keep it down that low I feel like I am not doing anything.  I feel like my HR is so high and it means I am out of shape, but I workout regularly (have for years) and I think I am okay as far as cardio goes.  But, maybe I am deluded  ;)  Oh my resting HR is 54.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 04:40:35 AM by NutMeg »
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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2010, 07:10:07 AM »
I want to focus on my quads.  Of course i want everything to be proportionate, but right now my quads jsut seem so puny compared to my other muscles.  I don't know if that is an after effect of my knee injury a few years ago or not.

So.  Ideas?

Idea 1) Listen to whatever Wlfdg says.
Idea 2) Squats. If a barbell is not available, then do dumbbell front squats. If you want to work your "behind" a little more do Bulgarian single leg squats.
Idea 3) don't do isolation exercises such as bicep curls and tricep extensions.
Any idiot can get on a treadmill and watch TV and then take great pride in the fact they've exercised.
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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 11:06:33 AM »
How many days a week do you want to strength train?

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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 12:04:29 PM »
bicep curls

I say this a lot. There is no reason to do bicep curls until you can do 10 perfect pullups without "feeling it".

EDIT: And even then curls are focusing too much on a stupid muscle. Stick with pullups/chinups and pushups for your arms and shoulders.



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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 04:27:57 PM »
Stick with pullups/chinups and pushups for your arms and shoulders.

Wide grip chin ups rock everyones world.
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 04:49:56 PM »
well that's easy then...I can't even do I chin up unassisted....someday!  course I got alotta junk in the trunk to haul up there too on these puny pipes!

squats Nutmeg!  They'll kill your quads and butt!  Wlfdg would have some ideas for other stuff too.

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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 06:44:36 PM »
O.K. Meg You want to look like Sarah Conner from the first Terminator?
#1- Forget the elliptical or any other machine!
#2- Stop doing accessory lifts, ie. biceps curls, tricep extensions, etc....

When do you train? What free weights do you have available?

Forget focusing on your HR.

Tabata Protocol first thing in the morning. Burpees, front squats or dumbbell thrusters 3-4 X per week.

COMPOUND LIFTS COMPOUND LIFTS COMPOUND LIFTS
Workout
A-
1.Bulgarian Split Squats w/ dumbbells- 25 reps however you get there. Pick a weight you can do 6 reps with with your weaker leg. Do 5 reps on the first set. Keep alternating legs until you 25 with each leg

2a.Pendlay Row/ 2b. Incline dumbbell press- 5 sets X 5 reps 60 sec. rest between sets
Alternate back and forth between exercises (2a & 2b) 60 sec. rest between each set

3. Janda Situp- 2 sets to failure.Do some research and learn to do these correctly. *Learn about Reciprocal Inhibition*


Workout-
B
1.Power Clean & Push Press- Pick a weight you can lift and press 8 X. Set an (egg) timer for 15min. Do 6 reps on your first set. Do as many sets/reps as you can in 15min. Rest 60 sec. between sets. End a set when you reps speed slows down.

2.Push ups-Set the timer for 10min. Do as many you can in 10min. Keep rest to a bare minimum between sets. DO NOT GO TO FAILURE ON ANY SETS!

3.Janda Situps as above


As an example-If you can lift 3 X per week

Mon- WO A + a.m. Tabata

Tues- Mellow steady state cardio 50-60% max.HR = Recovery cardio

Wed- WO B + a.m. Tabata

Thurs- a.m. Tabata

Fri- WO A
 
Sat- a.m. Tabata

Sun- Off

Mon-WO B + a.m. Tabata

etc.......

Take on full day off a week


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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2010, 01:20:36 PM »
Of course I didn't know what some of those exercises were, and I am kind of intimidated by them!  I will try though, it can't hurt, right?

I can go to the gym on base to work out, but have trouble getting the time to get over there.  In our clinic we have dumbbells up to 30 pounds, and as small as 1 pound.  We also have cuff weights to 12 pounds.  Hmmm, we have of course weight machines, but those probably won't be of much benefit.  We have a Total Gym, the heavy duty one.  We don't have any bars though. I think that my brother may have an extra set at his gym though and I might be able to get some.  I will be honest, I am kind of nervous about lifting in front of other people and might not feel right going to the base gym to lift.  I know I need to work on that, it is silly to be self conscious about working out :(
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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2010, 06:45:28 PM »
I say this with the best of intentions.  ;)


GET OVER IT!

You can accomplish a lot with dumbbells. You can do all of that workout with dumbbells.
Up to 30's should work fine to begin with.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2010, 06:47:51 PM by Wlfdg »
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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2010, 07:01:10 PM »
I know I need to get over it.  I am working on it :)

If I can start with the dumbbells than I can get used to doing them before I have to move to the gym.  That will be easier for me to transition to doing it.  I have never really lifted weights besides using machines and light weights once in a while. 
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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2010, 07:09:20 PM »
Well cool! Fun new stuff to learn! ;D
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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 01:36:58 PM »
I'd get right into the gym and hire a trainer to teach you how to powerlift... everyone has to start somewhere...

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Re: Thoguths and questions
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 01:36:58 PM »