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alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« on: September 16, 2013, 06:43:45 AM »
I started paleo a week ago and even though i do feel good i'm only down 1.5 pounds. i want to cut back on fruits and sweet potato as has been recommended. any ideas as to what i can snack on between the 3 main meals of the day?

Thanks in advance.

Offline Warren Dew

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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 06:55:53 AM »
Potatoes and sweet potatoes are not really paleo; they are starchy agricultural crops just like wheat and rice.

If you are trying to avoid fruit in order to better lose weight, sweet potatoes would be even more problematic than fruit anyway, as they contain even more carbohydrate.

Hard boiled eggs can be a good snack.  If you eat adequate protein and fat at your meals, though, you shouldn't need to snack between meals.


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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 09:37:07 AM »
i bought several books on paleo lifestyle and i think all of them use sweet potato in their recipes. this adds a big wrinkle to my plans.

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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 10:06:03 AM »

Hard boiled eggs can be a good snack.  If you eat adequate protein and fat at your meals, though, you shouldn't need to snack between meals.

I'm hungry in between meals as well.  I don't make myself full and I eat plenty of fat and protein.  Not sure why some people can go long periods while others are hungrier.

I do hard boiled eggs/ peppers/ cucumbers/ and avocadoes, as I'm trying to stay away from fruit also....and nuts too.

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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 12:46:04 PM »
any ideas as to what i can snack on between the 3 main meals of the day?


Nothing.  Eat more at mealtimes.  Soon you will be ketoadapted and you won't be hungry.  Snacking is a habit

If you're dying and don't actually want to consume any calories then try raw carrots, cucumber or chia seeds with tea.  If you need actual clalories then cold meat or a slice of creamed coconut or raw fresh coconut  That's pretty much it.  Coconut might help you while you are become keto adaptive because of the type of fats it contains

Re: sweet potatoes they are considered a 'safe starch'.  Eat them if you think you need starch - some people do need more starch than others.  Athletes get recovery benefits and some people end up with adrenal fatigue or hypothyroidism on a very low carb diet

Having said that, there are a lot of other paleo starches including
beetroot
carrot
parsnip
turnip
swede
celeriac
chestnuts
squashes of any kind (although they are new world, I've never seen them branded as non paleo)


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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2013, 04:51:37 PM »
any ideas as to what i can snack on between the 3 main meals of the day?


Nothing.  Eat more at mealtimes.  Soon you will be ketoadapted and you won't be hungry.  Snacking is a habit


Does it take a while to become ketoadapted?  I'm in my 4th week and I'm still hungry between meals.  And what does being ketoadapted look like?

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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2013, 10:26:55 PM »
Does it take a while to become ketoadapted?  I'm in my 4th week and I'm still hungry between meals.  And what does being ketoadapted look like?

It takes a week or two, but you have to cut virtually all carbohydrates for that time.  You may also get headaches and tiredness - sometimes called the "low carb flu" - during that time, though drinking plenty of water can help.

If you want to know for sure, you can get ketostix to test your urine for trace ketones not used by your body.

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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 04:56:10 AM »
  If you eat adequate protein and fat at your meals, though, you shouldn't need to snack between meals.

I'm trying to eat a little more at my meals to see if I won't need snacks ( that would definitely help with not needing to find snack ideas). Is there a reason people don't recommend snacking?  I've always said.....if your body is truly hungry, it needs fuel

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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 06:17:07 AM »
  I've always said.....if your body is truly hungry, it needs fuel
I'm not sure that's true. When I was a carb junkie I needed to eat every 3 hours or I'd get tired, irritable, headaches etc... I was definitely hungry between meals.

There is a complex mechanism involving hormones (such as insulin and lots of others) that controls hunger. Eating a typical western diet can throw this mechanism off track. You can feel hungry not because you need fuel but because your body has dealt with the previous meal of carbs too efficiently and left you with low blood sugar. Gary Taubes expalins it well in "Why we get fat".

When I eat low carb, high fat, I can go nearly all day without eating and without feeling any bad effects from it. It does take a while to adjust though, not only physically but mentally as well.

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Re: alternatives to fruits and sweet potato
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 10:15:37 AM »
  I've always said.....if your body is truly hungry, it needs fuel


When I eat low carb, high fat, I can go nearly all day without eating and without feeling any bad effects from it. It does take a while to adjust though, not only physically but mentally as well.

Thanks!  I'm hoping that soon my body will get used to using fat as fuel and it will level out at some point.  I started making my breakfasts a little bigger to see if that helps get me til lunch time.