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Offline Tarlach

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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2009, 04:26:22 AM »
Surprised more people aren't posting about their christmas cheat mishaps :)

Didn't have much of a problem with quality of food, just quantity.  I'm not used to having three large meals in one day ;) 

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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2009, 05:39:24 AM »
Well I've been eating christmas pudding with brandy cream, christmas cake with double cream, roast potato, red wine, brandy, breadcrumb based turbkey stuffing, crackers and cheese, a few cheeky glasses of port, large amounts of triple chocolate icecream and rum truffles, lots of rum truffles.



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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2009, 05:47:15 AM »
Good lord, samjohn!!  :o

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Cautionary tales #4
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2009, 10:29:44 AM »
Now for Christmas, I'm having a lot of sweets again, and this time it's not all paleo due in part to a box of Godiva chocolates received as a gift.  I'm taking the precautionary vitamin C again.  We'll see if the vitamin C is enough to compensate for the modern industrial age sugars.

This was pretty much the same amount of sugar as for vigil - the equivalent of most of a pecan pie filling, partly paleo and partly not, plus most of a box of chocolates, over the course of Dec 25, 26, and 27.  The vitamin C seems to have worked again - 1500mg over three days.  I did have a bit of a scare one night when it seemed like I was starting to have a sore throat, but I was fine by morning.

I think I conclude that large amounts of supplemental vitamin C helps make up for even nonpaleo sweets from the standpoint of the immune system.  The only thing that remains to be tested is whether paleo honey based sweets could be handled without vitamin C.

However, there were other bad effects.  Before I first started paleo, I was starting to get farsighted - my near vision was getting worse.  This partially reversed on the paleo diet.  I noticed that the binging on sugar last week started making my near vision noticeably worse again.  That happened early enough in the week that I think just the large amounts of honey would do it.

A day of very low carb yesterday seems to have fixed that, but I don't think I want to risk substantial amounts of honey in my diet on any regular basis.  48 years of nonpaleo eating have put me too close to the edge on issues related to protein crosslinking like that.

Edit:  My daughter had a cold throughout this period.  I quit taking the vitamin C when there were only a few chocolates left, and ate those few chocolates over the next couple of days.  During that time, I caught my daughter's cold.  So, maybe vitamin C works for nonpaleo sweets, but you really have to keep taking the vitamin C over the entire period of eating the sweets!
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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2010, 12:31:01 PM »
Christmas was all one giant cheat. Over the holidays I was diagnosed with a "mild" wheat allergy. And I put "mild" in quotes because I still had some antibodies even though was still paleo at the time of being tested and so was pretty much avoiding wheat. I avoided wheat for the most part so it wasn't as bad as in the past. (I now think the cake incident was a reaction to wheat rather than sugar).

I did succumb to the temptations of the pfeffernuesse. Those are now banned from my house.


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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2010, 09:31:23 AM »
I got so off track from doing paleo on a daily basis I wasn't posting any more! I was so busy at work, too.

I even made candy for people at work and that made it easy to snack on that while preparing boxes. BAD!

I want to try and find good, healthy snacks next year to give people. Practice what I "preach"... if I were asked to do such a thing. Haha! :)

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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2010, 12:23:10 PM »
Thursday night at a party I stuffed my face with candy, alcohol and Chinese takeout. Steered clear of the rice and noodles but I'm sure a few spoonfuls of the beef w/ broccoli had just as many carbs '_' That night I did not sleep. I was WIRED man. It felt like I was on drugs. By the time 4am rolled around it had become a very uncomfortable feeling.

I've felt sick since yesterday morning. There is this scratchy feeling that begins in the back of my throat and goes down to my lungs. Ew. I have a very persistent head throbbing. I have not been hungry but I ate some sardines for the vitamin D. Haha. Bit late on that. A hunger pang would feel so good right now.

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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2010, 10:06:39 PM »
I bought a donut (I know, I know) recently. I couldn't eat more than a 1/4th of it. It tasted horribly! The whole dough deep-fried in lord knows what vegetable oil or trans fat with sugar glazing did not agree with me at all. I'm glad to report that I no longer like donuts.

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Re: Cautionary tales
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2010, 04:58:24 AM »
That's good!

I haven't had donuts, but I've found I've lost my taste for all cakes and cookies and pastries, too. When I cheat with a dessert it's just a few bites of cheesecake without the crust.

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Cautionary tales #5
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2010, 12:32:36 PM »
I have another cheat to report.  Two weekends ago, we ate at our favorite chinese restaurant.  I was eating the meaty middle of the pot sticker dumplings while throwing out the wrappers, but we also had a different kind of dumpling with thinner but stickier wrappers.  I ate a few of those with the wrapper, and I got some intestinal cramps later in the afternoon.  Fortunately it wasn't enough to cause me to catch the sniffle that my daughter had.

My wife, though, ate lots of dumplings of all types with the wrappers.  She caught the sniffle - and it was rather more severe on her than on my daughter.  It only lasted a couple days, though; perhaps the immune system bounces back quickly once the carbohydrates are gone, or perhaps she took some vitamin C.
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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2010, 12:53:51 PM »
Just so people don't get the wrong idea from this journal - my cheats are actually fairly few and far between, but since I don't post normal days, they dominate in this journal - I thought I'd post about a good day.

So, anyway, the weekend before last monday, I'd been eating very low carb, with minimal fruit.  Then last monday night I had barbeque with friends, and I ate a lot of it - no sauce, strictly paleo.

I got a bad headache after my friends left and went to bed with it.  Tuesday morning the headache was gone and my urine smelled slightly sweet.  On the way to work, I noticed that everything seemed to look a little clearer - like the colors were more true, or something.

Usually I start getting a little hungry and eat something around noon.  That day, I didn't feel hungry or eat anything until 4 pm.  All day, I felt - well, not exactly energetic, but it had that effect - like I ought to run rather than walk, which I mostly did.

I'm pretty sure that was one of my rare days in ketosis.  I didn't test to see if it would be problematic for anaerobic exercise, though.



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Re: Cautionary tales #6
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2010, 04:51:15 PM »
I'm down with a sore throat and cold.  This is probably due to 2 oz of 85% dark chocolate and staying up half the night while my wife had a sore throat and my daughter had strep.  I also ate a meal at a restaurant, but the only nonpaleo things I ate there were some butter and whatever might have been added to the au jus that came with the roast beef - which was clearly connected to a quick bout of sticky stool afterwards.

Got a free automated blood pressure check at a CVS drug store today.  Blood pressure 90/60, heart rate 90 - I suspect the blood pressure is low and the heart rate high due to sickness.  I should recheck it when I'm healthy again.

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Re: Cautionary tales #6
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2010, 08:17:31 AM »
I'm down with a sore throat and cold.  This is probably due to 2 oz of 85% dark chocolate and staying up half the night while my wife had a sore throat and my daughter had strep.

That seems like a hasty conclusion there. Are you saying that eating some dark chocolate weakened your immune system that much, or that the sore throat had nothing to do with everyone else being sick...

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Re: Cautionary tales #6
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2010, 08:36:36 AM »
That seems like a hasty conclusion there. Are you saying that eating some dark chocolate weakened your immune system that much, or that the sore throat had nothing to do with everyone else being sick...

I'm saying the dark chocolate probably weakened my immune system enough to catch it from everyone else - or perhaps, for me to show symptoms after I'd already caught it but didn't have much in the way of symptoms.

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Re: Cautionary tales #7?
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2010, 12:48:27 AM »
Got about 2 lb of Godiva dark chocolate "from my 2 year old daughter" for father's day Sunday morning.  About half a pound is gone already - mostly into me, but about 1 oz each into my wife and daughter.

I had 1250 mg vitamin C to try to prevent ill effects; we'll see if it works.  Daughter had a fever Sunday afternoon although she is not paleo.

I need to figure out how to get my wife to take me seriously when I ask her not to get me chocolate....