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Food Journal - Rodan
« on: September 12, 2011, 01:26:05 PM »
Okay, so here's what I've been eating. I try to not do exactly the same thing every day, but usually I'm eating three or so of these meals per day.

Stew
- One pound of 80% lean mean
- One can of tomatoes & habanero peppers
- Half a cup of diced onions
- Enough extra virgin olive oil to coat the bottom of the pot

Rotisserie chicken
- One whole rotisserie chicken that they sell at grocery stores

Burgers & veggies
- Two half-pound patties grilled on a George Foreman grill
- Broccoli dipped in melted butter

Steak & veggies
- One or two strips of thin-sliced steak grilled on a George Foreman grill
- Broccoli dipped in melted butter

Occasional eating out meal
- Bunless burger without ketchup
- Some sort of vegetables

Snacks
- Smoked/salted almonds

To drink, I just have water. For supplements, I take 300-600mg of alpha-lipoic acid, 200IU of vitamin E, 1200-2400mg of omega-3 fish oil, 400mcg of chromium picolinate, and 500mg of vitamin C.

Since starting this a couple of weeks ago, my weight has slowly gone up, my blood sugar is lower throughout the day, but my fasting blood sugar immediately hit a (lower) plateau and doesn't seem to be dropping at all (when I really wish it would!).

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Food Journal - Rodan
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 01:56:25 PM »
I'm no expert, but that looks pretty good to me.  Any possibility of added sugar in the tomatoes, chicken, or nuts?

How large a serving of nuts are you having as snacks?  Some people find that they gain weight easily from nuts.

How much weight have you gained?  It's possible to lose fat and gain some weight in muscle.  Tracking your measurements with a tape measure will give you a better idea of whether you're losing fat or not.

I would try to be patient so long as you're feeling good overall.  Sometimes people do stall or plateau for a little while on weight loss, so I'd imagine the same thing could happen with blood glucose.
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Re: Food Journal - Rodan
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 01:59:06 PM »
How are your hunger levels? If you're not hungry, you could try dialling back on the nuts.

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 10:23:36 AM »
The canned tomatoes likely have sugar.

The almonds are almost certainly roasted in peanut oil, which is nonpaleo.  They also have a certain amount of carbohydrate, though whether that matters depends on what you eat.  Try switching to unsalted nuts; you're less lkely to overeat them.

That is a lot of meat, enough that much of the protein is likely being turned into blood glucose through gluconeogenesis and replenishing liver glycogen.  That may have something to do with why your fasting blood sugar levels are high.

Posting daily and including all cheats might be useful.

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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2011, 02:12:02 PM »
Yes, you're right about the canned tomatoes. I just looked - the can has about 11g of sugar. I take it that's too much? What alternatives do I have? I'm really not liking the idea of dicing my own tomatoes...

Right again on the almonds. The ingredients list peanut oil and sea salt. I think I can get a plain variety... though that will be far less tasty :( I wonder if I will even eat them. Maybe if I'm super hungry. Oh well.

It's a lot of meat that I'm eating, but isn't that what I'm supposed to do? Didn't cavemen typically eat a lot of meat - especially at one meal (after a kill)? If it's indeed too much, what do you recommend I eat instead? More buttered veggies?

This really is everything I'm eating. I'm not cheating at all, which is why I'm a bit disappointed in my results so far. But, it sounds like there is room for improvement.

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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 05:06:50 PM »
For the tomatoes, you could check various brand of canned tomatoes, tomato sauce, or tomato paste and perhaps find some without sugar or other nonpaleo items on the ingredients list.  Alternatively, you could make a clear stew, though you might want meat in chunks rather than ground meat for that.  You may need to add a bit of salt for flavor.

The meat may be okay.  Certainly if you need that much to keep you from getting hungry, it's fine.

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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 07:51:22 PM »
I managed to find a brand of canned diced tomatoes that doesn't have any sugar in it. Also, I picked up some natural almonds to replaced the roasted ones. Hopefully this helps! I'll be sure to post.

Does fat do better against glycogenesis than protein? Is there anything else I can do to dampen the effect?

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Re: Food Journal - Rodan
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 09:18:52 PM »
Ditching all dairy has helped many lose more weight.

Resistance training with weights will help both your blood sugar and your fat loss.
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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Re: Food Journal - Rodan
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 06:21:49 AM »
Ditching all dairy has helped many lose more weight.

Does ghee/clarified butter seem to have the same effect as regular butter?
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Re: Food Journal - Rodan
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 02:02:37 PM »
Ditching all dairy has helped many lose more weight.
You're referring to the butter, right? I know it's not orthodox paleo, but what's so wrong with it? How else am I supposed to add enough fat to the vegetables to feel full?

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 02:29:17 PM »
Ditching all dairy has helped many lose more weight.
You're referring to the butter, right? I know it's not orthodox paleo, but what's so wrong with it? How else am I supposed to add enough fat to the vegetables to feel full?

The proteins in milk can cause similar problems to grains and legumes, including metabolism issues that stall weight loss.  Some people tolerate dairy better than others.

I'm lactose intolerant and casein gives me acne, but I am able to eat clarified butter with no problem.  So, you could try clarifying the butter (heat on the stove over very low heat, undisturbed, until the fat separates from the liquids and milk solids, then skim off the solids and pour off the fat into a separate container). 

You could also use coconut oil, lard, tallow, bacon grease, fat from roasting chicken...the list goes on. :)
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Re: Food Journal - Rodan
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 02:29:17 PM »