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Offline Warren Dew

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Re: help a sister out?
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2010, 10:09:36 AM »
thanks Bee and Warren for the responses. I got some uncured center cut bacon from Whole Foods. I cooked 3 pieces for tomorrow morning. holy cow....that is A LOT of fat!! I had only cooked turkey bacon before this so.....wow. I am psyched for some fat.

That's the idea.  Now you know what we mean when we say to eat more fat!

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Overall, i think I'm getting closer to eating meals that keep me full. It is so hard to believe I will actually lose fat eating this way. Even though I've read the research it is so counter to what i've be told my whole life.

Sounds like you are eating enough food now.  That's good.  For the fine tuning, as Bee says, getting a higher proportion of your food intake from fat is next.  A couple specific suggestions:  drop the sweet potatoes, which are not paleo and are starchy; also make sure your chili has no beans in it, as beans are not paleo.

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Re: help a sister out?
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2010, 03:24:13 PM »
Your doing great on the meat part, but you need to eat fattier cuts of meat.  All the meats you are eating are lean.  If you have a Whole Foods, they would surely have a good selection of grass fed, free range "critters".  I know they have a great sausage, that is made out of "caveman" ingredients and is fatty and tastes very good as well.
Unluckily, Whole Paycheck's sausages get virtually all their fat trimmed off and replaced with - the horror - canola oil. The butchers spend a lot of time leaning all their meats (even the grass fed) and throwing away the fat.

Befriend a WH butcher and get an in on their surplus grass-fed fat.

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Now, go forth and eat fat! (Really)

Exactly. I'd like to propose the following rules of thumb:

- Unless you are eating 80/20% ground or a really marbled or fatty cut of meat (such as ribs) you are deficient in dietary fat.
- Chicken and turkey are too lean in general. Add more fat (fry them in tallow, lard or coconut oil).  Even eating the dark and skin they are probably still too lean.
- Fish is almost always too lean. Add fat.
- Seafood such as mussels, shrimp, squid, etc. are virtually fat-less. Add fat (coconut oil, etc.)
- Game meat (including bison) is always too lean. Add more fat.
- Even pork can be too lean. Pork chops, for eg., are usually quite lean. Try to balance with fattier cuts.

So basically speaking: be always adding fat, unless you are getting 75/25% ground or are eating a very fatty rack of ribs.


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Re: help a sister out?
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2010, 02:01:35 PM »
Thanks Warren and Il Capo. It is funny that you mention about WF butcher's trimming all fat. Just yesterday I was just staring at all the raw meat in the deli and everything was lean. I did get some 85% fat ground meat. I ordered bison as well and then was like, doh--it is 95% lean.

This weekend I went to a hoof to snout restaurant here in Houston. I was all excited to "get full from fat". My plan totally backfired b/c it was too much too soon. I tried to eat the "marrow" as an appetizer. UGH===puke. Then, ordered the pork belly for my entree. I love bacon but this was much more hard core. When i was truly faced with real fat---it was so unappealing to me. I ended up throwing up in the middle of the night because my stomach was aching so much.  :(I hope this doesn't mean I'm going to be a Paleo flunkie.

I will keep experimenting with getting enough fat. This morning I had pot roast and some almonds but it could've used more fat! will keep at it.

thanks for specific feedback. i need those kind of suggestions. I'm new to this way of thinking and eating so continue to underestimate what enough fat intake really is.

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Re: help a sister out?
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2010, 03:56:42 PM »

Sounds like you are eating enough food now.  That's good.  For the fine tuning, as Bee says, getting a higher proportion of your food intake from fat is next.  A couple specific suggestions:  drop the sweet potatoes, which are not paleo and are starchy; also make sure your chili has no beans in it, as beans are not paleo.


GASP!  Careful Warren, surely no Texan would put beans in her chili!  She could be thrown out of the state and loose her Texan card!


Lucky, you didn't put beans in your chili, did you?


[Bee reaching for her sissors to cut up Lucky's Texan card.]

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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2010, 04:04:46 PM »
Okay, all kidding aside.  8)

Sometimes working up to that much fat is a good thing, then you don't make yourself ill.  But, with that said, -I- find that commercially raised pork will make me very ill just as it did you.  So, with that in mind, may I suggest that you go get some sliced slab bacon, say 1 pound and either broil it as I do, or fry as most folks would.  Try that with your eggs and whatever you have for your morning meal.  Then try a nice rolled pork roast for the nights meal or the next nights meal.  In other words, get into the shallow end of the pool before jumping into the deep end without having full knowledge of correct swimming strokes.  While I appreciate and admire your type A enthusiasm, let's not make you so sick you give up. 

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Re: help a sister out?
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2010, 08:51:31 AM »
Then, ordered the pork belly for my entree. I love bacon but this was much more hard core. When i was truly faced with real fat---it was so unappealing to me. I ended up throwing up in the middle of the night because my stomach was aching so much.  :(I hope this doesn't mean I'm going to be a Paleo flunkie.

You'll be fine.  Full fat pork belly straight is way too fatty even for me.  There's a reason we fry out 2/3 of the fat from bacon, even for those of us who do save it to mix with other food.

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Re: help a sister out?
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2010, 08:29:35 PM »
hey everyone,
I don't want to wear out my welcome on the boards so I haven't been posting daily. I really want to get the hang of paleo b/c i am liking the way I feel when i do get it right. The problem is that I cannot get a handle on the morning hunger and it leads to cheats. This week I have experimented with different breakfasts like:
  • 5 eggs & five pieces of bacon--hungry 2 hours later;
    • pot roast with avacado plus coconut milk, berries & nuts---still hungry
      2 eggs plus ground meat (85% fat beef with some ground turkey). I even had a teaspoon of coconut oil first thing upon waking to see if that would curb hunger
      I've tried other tactics such as having a hard boiled egg first thing upon waking (6am)
      drinking hot water w/ lemon first to try to curb hunger
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    tried eating a snack before bed

    Bee asked if it was "real hunger" & although i'm perplexed as well, yes it is real hunger. I have hunger pangs and even feel naseaus if I don't eat within 1 hour. it doesn't make sense that I could eat the food and feel as though i didn't eat. Just so people know---insatiable morning hunger has always been a problem and I really only avoid it when we go out to breakfast and I eat eggs, hashbrowns, bacon etc. I've been looking everywhere online to find other weirdos like me.
    I'm just venting. I will continue to get more fat in the foods since i know i'm not up to par on that. BUT i do want to point out that my five egg, five bacon breakfast wore off as well. And honestly, I kind of gag when i think of eating that again. I just want to eat something kind of quickly--15 min. and be done until lunch.

    other meals have been going pretty well and my snacks are typically jerky or boiled egg and carrots

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Re: help a sister out?
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2010, 08:29:35 PM »