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Offline Il Capo

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Meats and the rest
« on: April 02, 2010, 06:13:00 PM »
Here's what I had today:

Cals: 2864
Protein: 153g
Carbs: 62g
Fat: 224g. I had to seriously go out of my way to get that much fat. I added tallow to the ground bison as it was too lean and had to use olive oil when I ran out of proteins with a lot of fat left to eat.

Coffee, brewed, espresso, restaurant-prepared   10   fluid ounce   6.0
Egg, whole, cooked, omelet   183   g   287.3
Carrots, cooked, boiled, drained, with salt   0.5   carrot   8.0
Onions, yellow, sauteed   0.5   cup chopped   57.4
Fat, beef tallow   1   tbsp   115.5
Bananas, raw   2   small (6" to 6-7/8" long)   179.8
Bison, ground, grass-fed, cooked   490   g   877.1
Egg, whole, cooked, fried   1   large   90.2
Fat, beef tallow   2   tbsp   230.9
Mustard, prepared, yellow   2   tsp or 1 packet   6.7
Oil, olive, salad or cooking   8   tablespoon   954.7
Vinegar, balsamic   1.5   tbsp   12.0
Spinach, raw   0.5   bunch   39.1

Some of the quantities are estimations and there may be some double counting (eg: omelettes + tallow), but I trust these numbers to be around +/- 10% accurate.

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 06:35:23 PM »
Today:
If you are reading this and having trouble following, it's because most dishes are broken down into components (eg: mushroom stir fried + tallow + fried eggs is actually a fritatta ai fungi). I don't track added salt nor water. I drink a lot of water and try to add as little salt as possible, but am still using it.

Totals:
Cals:2,528 (22% Protein / 13% carbs / 64% fat)
Protein: 142g
Carbs: 89g
Fat: 195g

In the table below, I'm stating: description, quantity, unit of quantity and the number without units at the end is calories. This report is a copy & paste from the Cron-o-Meter software (downloadable for free).

Bison, ground, grass-fed, cooked   250   g   447.5
Fat, beef tallow   0.5   tbsp   57.7
Mustard, prepared, yellow   0.5   tsp or 1 packet   1.7
Bananas, raw   1   small (6" to 6-7/8" long)   89.9
Mushrooms, white, stir-fried   100   g   26.0
Fat, beef tallow   2   tbsp   230.9
Egg, whole, cooked, fried   2   large   180.3
Tea, herb, other than chamomile, brewed   6   cup (8 fl oz)   14.2
Peaches, raw   2   medium (2-2/3" dia)   117.0
Candies, chocolate, dark, 70-85% cacao solids   1.4   oz   237.7
Spinach, frozen, chopped or leaf, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt   0.5   package (10 oz) yields   37.4
Fat, beef tallow   2   tbsp   230.9
Lamb, domestic, rib, separable lean and fat, trimmed to 1/4" fat, choice, cooked, broiled   1   piece, cooked, excluding refuse (yield from 1 lb raw meat with refuse)   826.7
Mustard, prepared, yellow   2   tsp or 1 packet   6.7
Vinegar, balsamic   3   tbsp   24.0


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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2010, 07:04:02 PM »
Today:

Summary:
Cals: 2,552
Protein: 152g
Carbs: 80g
Fat: 150g
Alcohol: N/A, but two drinks contributed with almost as many calories as all the carbs I had in the day.

The breakdown in cals is: Prot: 25%, carbs: 12%, fat: 53%, alcohol: 11%

Fish, tuna, white, canned in water, drained solids   1   can   220.2
Oil, olive, salad or cooking   2   tablespoon   238.7
Egg, whole, cooked, hard-boiled   3   large   232.5
Vinegar, balsamic   12   g   6.4
Peaches, raw   1   small (2-1/2" dia)   50.7
Bananas, raw   1   small (6" to 6-7/8" long)   89.9
Candies, chocolate, dark, 70-85% cacao solids   1.4   oz   237.7
Beef, ground, 80% lean meat / 20% fat, loaf, cooked, baked   0.5   loaf ( yield from 1 lb raw meat )   392.4
Crustaceans, shrimp, mixed species, cooked, moist heat   200   g   198.0
Vegetable oil, coconut   3   tbsp   351.7
Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   2   10 nuts   175.8
Alcoholic beverage, distilled, whiskey, 86 proof   4   fl oz   278.0
Onions, raw   4   slice, large (1/4" thick)   60.8
Raspberries, raw   2   10 raspberries   19.8

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2010, 07:58:49 PM »
I like how your food journal causes ads for high end bison steaks to be served up.

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2010, 07:17:57 PM »
I like how your food journal causes ads for high end bison steaks to be served up.

Heh. Hadn't noticed that.
I wonder what the software brings up when I add organ meats.


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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010, 09:32:45 PM »
Today:

Cals:2,564
Prot: 145g. Carbs: 85g. Fat: 185g

Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   2   10 nuts   175.8
Coffee, brewed, espresso, restaurant-prepared   4   fluid ounce   2.4
Mushrooms, white, stir-fried   110   g   28.6
Egg, whole, cooked, omelet   2   large   191.5
Fat, beef tallow   1   tbsp   115.5
Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   1   10 nuts   87.9
Oranges, raw, Florida   2   fruit (2-11/16" dia)   138.9
Bananas, raw   1   small (6" to 6-7/8" long)   89.9
Fat, beef tallow   5   tbsp   577.3
Chicken, broilers or fryers, thigh, meat only, cooked, fried   6   thigh, bone and skin removed   680.2
Onions, yellow, sauteed   1   cup chopped   114.8
Chicken, broilers or fryers, leg, meat only, cooked, roasted   1   leg, bone and skin removed   181.4
Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   1   oz (21 whole kernels)   178.0
Coffee, brewed, espresso, restaurant-prepared   4   fluid ounce   2.4

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 10:20:05 PM »
I wonder what the software brings up when I add organ meats.

"Seventh Generation - Naturally Safe and Effective Household Cleaning Products"

Heh.  It's a good break from the weight loss ads, though.

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 10:52:34 AM »
Yesterday:

Cals: 2,537. Prot: 163g. Carbs: 50g. Fat: 188g

Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   2   10 nuts   175.8
Egg, whole, cooked, hard-boiled   1   large   77.5
Coffee, brewed, espresso, restaurant-prepared   3   fluid ounce   1.8
Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   1   10 nuts   87.9
Oranges, raw, Florida   1   fruit (2-11/16" dia)   69.5
Chicken, broilers or fryers, leg, meat only, cooked, roasted   4   leg, bone and skin removed   725.8
Fat, beef tallow   3   tbsp   346.4
Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   1   10 nuts   87.9
Candies, chocolate, dark, 70-85% cacao solids   1   oz   169.8
Crustaceans, shrimp, mixed species, cooked, moist heat   200   g   198.0
Vegetable oil, coconut   4   tbsp   468.9
Garlic, raw   1   clove   4.5
Onions, yellow, sauteed   1   cup chopped   114.8
Carrots, raw   0.3   large (7-1/4" to 8-/1/2" long)   8.9

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010, 11:46:22 AM »
Yesterday

Cals: 2,868
Prot: 169g. Fat: 208g. Carbs: 81g

Coffee, brewed, espresso, restaurant-prepared   4   fluid ounce   2.4
Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   1   10 nuts   87.9
Crustaceans, shrimp, mixed species, cooked, moist heat   50   g   49.5
Vegetable oil, coconut   1   tbsp   117.2
Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   0.5   10 nuts   44.0
Apples, raw, with skin   1   medium (3" dia)   94.6
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw   1   small (2-1/4" dia)   40.3
Pork, fresh, shoulder, whole, separable lean and fat, cooked, roasted   400   g   1168.0
Lettuce, red leaf, raw   0.3   head   14.8
Oil, olive, salad or cooking   3   tablespoon   358.0
Raspberries, raw   2.5   10 raspberries   24.7
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw   1   small (2-1/4" dia)   40.3
Apples, raw, with skin   1   medium (3" dia)   94.6
Pork, fresh, shoulder, whole, separable lean and fat, cooked, roasted   250   g   730.0
Coffee, brewed, espresso, restaurant-prepared   4   fluid ounce   2.4

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 05:37:41 PM »
This is getting tricky. There's some foods I eat which I can't find in the Cron-o-meter. Case in point: beef marrow. I boiled 3 marrowy bones with some veggies to make a soup.
This is what yesterday looked like.

Nuts, hazelnuts or filberts   2   10 nuts   175.8
Egg, whole, cooked, fried   2   large   180.3
Fat, beef tallow   1   tbsp   115.5
Caribou, bone marrow, raw (Alaska Native)   150   g   1179.0
Carrots, cooked, boiled, drained, with salt   1   carrot   16.1
Onions, cooked, boiled, drained, with salt   0.5   medium   19.7
Apples, raw, with skin   1   medium (3" dia)   94.6

Cals and protein were low. I didn't feel like eating much, I was tired. I did a de-facto fast for several hours (didn't have dinner and had a late breakfast today).

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 09:11:59 PM »
This is getting tricky. There's some foods I eat which I can't find in the Cron-o-meter. Case in point: beef marrow. I boiled 3 marrowy bones with some veggies to make a soup.

To make it even more tricky, there are big differences between yellow marrow and red marrow.

If you can find a source for the nutritional value, I think there's a way to add new food types to the cron-o-meter.

As an aside, it's ironic how we have so many people here who use the cron-o-meter, none of whom are on the CRON diet.

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 10:04:28 PM »
I had no idea that there was a Cron diet.

About marrow:
While searching for their nutritional value, I came across this link:
http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v56/n3/pdf/1601307a.pdf

It seems that marrow has a different lipid profile from other fats such as subcutaneous or brains in a few wild animals. I'll start a thread about it.

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 10:27:29 PM »
Today:

Fine on protein, a little high in carbs and a little low in fats and cals.

Fish, tuna, white, canned in water, drained solids   1   can   220.2
Grapes, red or green (European type, such as Thompson seedless), raw   5   10 grapes   169.0
Coffee, brewed, espresso, restaurant-prepared   4   fluid ounce   2.4
Vegetable oil, coconut   1   tbsp   117.2
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw   1   small (2-1/4" dia)   40.3
Beef, ground, 80% lean meat / 20% fat, loaf, cooked, baked   1.2   loaf ( yield from 1 lb raw meat )   941.8
Fat, beef tallow   1   tbsp   115.5
Onions, cooked, boiled, drained, with salt   0.75   large   40.3
Spices, oregano, dried   1   tsp, leaves   3.1
Spices, cumin seed   1   tsp, whole   7.9
Vinegar, balsamic   4   tbsp   32.0
Tomatoes, red, ripe, canned, stewed   1   cup   66.3
Grapes, red or green (European type, such as Thompson seedless), raw   3   10 grapes   101.4

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 11:48:09 PM »
I had no idea that there was a Cron diet.

CRON = Caloric Restriction with Optimal Nutrition.  The calculator is designed to help people get all the required RDAs with a minimum of daily calories in an attempt to maximize lifespan.  Obviously it's also quite useful as a generalized diet analysis tool, which is to its authors' credit.

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Re: Meats and the rest
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2010, 06:18:02 AM »
CRON = Caloric Restriction with Optimal Nutrition.  The calculator is designed to help people get all the required RDAs with a minimum of daily calories in an attempt to maximize lifespan.  Obviously it's also quite useful as a generalized diet analysis tool, which is to its authors' credit.

Interesting. I've noticed the database is very similar (if not the same) to that in nutritiondata.com.