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Offline Wild Hunger (ketogenic)

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Give me fat or give me chronic pain!
« on: June 13, 2014, 01:52:39 PM »
I haven't figured out everything about cron-o-meter yet.  So not sure how to copy paste the text.  There are rumors of exporting it, but it will take time to get to where I'm an expert in it.  For the moment, I'm taking a screenshot and it works in a limited way.

The breakdown of fats etc says I was at 71%+ that day.  Not bad, but I prefer 75% or higher.  I was trying not to choose a day that was too "angelic" or too "cheating." 

The dairy requires some comment.  I started ketogenic and then modified toward Paleo.  I still do eat dairy because I'm by necessity ketogenic and it makes my life so much easier.  But I stay away from anything but the cream and ferments. For those who eat cheese, colby is interesting because it has a washing process that I suspect removes much more of the lactose than most cheese.  Well, if you get a good one. I've never had a gut issue from it and I'm very very prone to gut reactions (not the good kind).  So that's my view on dairy for now.  I didn't eat it for many years so that's playing into my preference, I'm sure.  It still seems like a luxury.  I'm sure the glamor will wear off.

The big surprise nutritionally is that the more Paleo I eat, the better my numbers look nutritionally, and the lower my carbohydrates look (assuming I'm avoiding fruit, or limiting to 1/2 cup).  B1 is the vitamin I most often have to supplement, as is folate, despite monster salads on some days.  Every day I take at least 2-4 tsp of Nordic n-3 oil to balance the n-6 naturally found in beef or whatever I have been eating.  I try to avoid too much oil, but I'm not too fanatical yet (as the Hidden Valley Ranch shows). 

I don't do salt and my condiments don't include anything with garlic/onions as I can't digest FODMAPS without pain.  I got used to it. Curry helps, if you get a book that explains how to mix it yourself.

As time goes on I may post some others as time allows.  Please feel free to make suggestions for improvement.  Constructive help is always appreciated.  I hope you find my list as useful as I found everyone else's.

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Re: Give me fat or give me chronic pain!
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2014, 04:11:48 PM »
Looks pretty good to me - primal if not paleo.

Some people have found that they can break through a weight loss stall by eliminating cheese.  Usually these stalls are within 10 or 20 pounds of their goal weights.  If it's not affecting you, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Personally I use melted butter on asparagus, but I strain it through a tea strainer first to remove solids.  That's an option if you ever want to get stricter about dairy.


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Re: Give me fat or give me chronic pain!
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2014, 05:59:10 PM »
Looks pretty good to me - primal if not paleo.

Some people have found that they can break through a weight loss stall by eliminating cheese.  Usually these stalls are within 10 or 20 pounds of their goal weights.  If it's not affecting you, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Personally I use melted butter on asparagus, but I strain it through a tea strainer first to remove solids.  That's an option if you ever want to get stricter about dairy.

Thanks for commenting on it.  You're probably right about the cheese.  It may be the reason why bodybuilders gain on whey powder.  OK, massive amounts of whey powder, lol.  It probably is affecting me, but I haven't noticed because I regularly fast so it balances. But what if I gave it up...  I think after this block, I'll freeze what I have left for a month or two and see the difference.  When it comes time to do that to cream, there will be some cringeing, but that evil day hasn't yet arrived.  One step at a time.

It's ghee making time anyway...  I found a better recipe.  Wouldn't you know you can render it like tallow over extra water.  All those fancy frying pan recipes scared me off at first. Let's hope this method works. That stuff in jars at the Indian market is bad smelling. Or maybe I don't know which brand.

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Re: Give me fat or give me chronic pain!
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 01:49:45 PM »
Another day in keto paradise.  Jambalaya stew and a simple salad on this one (hence small amounts of various meats).  Dairy being reduced and I recalculated my targets so they make more sense now.  By gram-weight this should be a 1:1 ketogenic diet, technically called a MAD (modified atkins diet), which usually works out in the 70% fat by Calories range or slightly higher.  My gram-wise targets work out to 56% fat by weight, giving me a tiny bit of leeway.  Sorry for the accounting nightmare, my head is still full of numbers.

I'm experimenting with small amounts of rice bread to bring my carb levels up slowly.  I might just switch to protein but one experiment at a time.  The "1 slice" part is a dummy variable.. it's what it takes to account for the carbs in 1/2 slice of the rice bread I have.  I really should work on that sourdough idea I had. Sometime when I have infinite time and energy...