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Offline Jazi

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Any cheaters?
« on: September 14, 2013, 05:23:50 AM »
This question is for you hard core Paleo's. 

Have you ever just gave in to a dish of pasta or bread stick?

Offline Warren Dew

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Re: Any cheaters?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2013, 08:52:53 PM »
Yuck.

Early on, yes.  Before I started paleo I was buying one package of bread sticks in my weekly grocery runs, which I ate for a snack with plenty of butter.  With paleo I switched to packages of ultra expensive, ultra thin bread sticks - 1/4 as much bread for the same price.  After a few weeks I found I wasn't eating them any more so I quit buying them.  Nuts were a tastier snack.

Nowadays, the smell of fresh baked bread turns my stomach, and I'd sooner eat a piece of paper than a piece of bread or a serving of pasta.  Once one has adjusted to paleo, most cheats just aren't appealing any more.


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Re: Any cheaters?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2013, 04:41:44 AM »
How long did it take you to adjust to a paleo life style?

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Re: Any cheaters?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2013, 09:46:54 AM »
Well, for me, there were several stages.  The first month or so, I was still learning what paleo really was on this forum; I had to learn things like cutting out the potatoes and discarding the bread when I bought a sandwich.  After that I had replaced those starchy foods with fruit.  Over the next five months or so, I gradually got used to the idea of things like discarding the bread without worrying about what other people thought so that it no longer took a large amount of will power; I also naturally tapered down on fruit as I got over my fat phobia and started seeking out and eating full fat meats.  At the end of that six months I'd gotten over the idea that things like bread and pasta are food.

I did keep eating chocolate, using smaller and smaller amounts of darker and darker chocolate.  It took me a year or two and one very bad experience to quit eating 85% dark chocolate.  I was still eating a small bar of 91% chocolate per week until a few months ago, when my grocery store quit carrying it.

It would have been better if I could have gotten through the first six months quicker.  I think a lot of people who try to ease into it in various ways end up dropping off, especially women who are trying to lose weight.  Most people lose 5-10 pounds of water weight fairly quickly, and men can continue to lose fat gradually on the high fruit paleo I was on for the first six months, but women seem to stall unless they squeeze down on the fruit, and a six month stall can be pretty discouraging.
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Re: Any cheaters?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 04:37:38 AM »
but women seem to stall unless they squeeze down on the fruit, and a six month stall can be pretty discouraging.

Not sure how much I agree with this.  I've also seen a lot of women stall in the opposite scenario - when they aren't eating enough carbs and are hypothyroid, whereas men seem to be able to maintain a VLC diet for longer without issue.  I think women just have a harder time losing fat period and really need to reduce calories pretty drastically to lose the last 10-20lbs.

Anyway, cheats, I do, but not with pasta or breadstick (which is weird because I ate LOADS of pasta before paleo).  And never a breakdown or binge.   If I cheat it it small amounts of other people's desserts (stuff like creme brulee, not stuff like icecream)  Sometimes I have half a slice of bread at this restaurant I frequent but it's really delicious "artisan" bread, and it's mainly used as a vehicle to soak up their amazing olive oil (which is actually from palestine and is the best I've tasted)

Fruit I don't eat that much of.  Sometimes I pick up some weird tropical fruits from the Philippines but they all taste pretty much the same ie vaguely sweet but with not much flavour (I have one in my fridge now, bright fluoro pink flesh with black seeds, looks exciting, tastes of nothing much!)  In the UK I loved blackberries but here they are imported and are not very flavourful.  I love figs when they're in season and sometimes take other regional fruit from the levant - apricots, cherries, pomegranates etc.  Dates I love, but avoid


My main cheat is dairy.  I regularly eat goat yoghurt and keffir.  Given my ancestry is northern european and central asian/middle eastern I figure it's not too bad for me, I enjoy it, it doesn't give me skin or digestive issues.  I really don't enjoy milk though, of any kind


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Re: Any cheaters?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 06:25:44 PM »
but women seem to stall unless they squeeze down on the fruit, and a six month stall can be pretty discouraging.
Not sure how much I agree with this.  I've also seen a lot of women stall in the opposite scenario - when they aren't eating enough carbs and are hypothyroid, whereas men seem to be able to maintain a VLC diet for longer without issue.  I think women just have a harder time losing fat period and really need to reduce calories pretty drastically to lose the last 10-20lbs.

To some extent we're talking about different things.  I'm talking about the first 50 pounds, not the last 10 pounds.