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Offline skorpion317

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Paleo vs. Vegan
« on: April 26, 2012, 04:50:38 AM »
http://experiencelife.com/article/paleo-vs-vegan/

A few choice answers from the vegan side:

On their daily menu:


“For breakfast, I have many options: organic vegetable juice or a green smoothie, seed pancakes, tofu scramble, sprouted-grain bread (or gluten-free bread) with almond butter or avocado, or millet porridge with peaches. For lunch and dinner I focus on vegetables: I might have a big salad or sautéed veggies with a tasty sauce accompanied by something like bean soup, a burrito, falafel, vegetarian shepherd’s pie, tempeh Reuben with sauerkraut, or a hearty root-vegetable stew.”

On eating grains (I've added emphasis)

"Cereal grains are currently the most important nutritional component of the human diet — and for more than 10,000 years, grains have been recognized as staples and were once extolled as ‘the staff of life.’The most important support for my conclusion that we are close to vegan, primarily starch-eaters is based on an observation that you can easily validate for yourself: All large populations of trim, healthy people throughout written human history have obtained the bulk of their calories from starch. Examples of thriving people now and in the past include Japanese and Chinese in Asia eating rice, buckwheat and sweet potatoes; Mayans and Aztecs in Central America who ate corn; and Egyptians in the Middle East who once thrived on wheat.”

Good God, there are so many flaws with this argument. Grains have been recognized as staples for the last 10,000 years? What about the roughly 2 million years of human evolution and history before that? Trim, healthy people getting the bulk of their calories from starch? I'd be willing to bet that they were trim because they had very active lifestyles from farming and hunting. As far as them being "healthy", why is it that prehistoric hunter-gatherers were extremely fit with strong muscles and bones, while Neolithic farmers became shorter, weaker, and sicklier in comparison?


Offline samjohn

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Re: Paleo vs. Vegan
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 06:08:59 AM »
A small mind will think 10k years is an unimaginably long time, when it is just a blink. Even the 2 million years we've been in this general form are just a blink, but at least a blink that is long enough to be relevant with regards to evolution.

Convince the ones you love and laugh as the rest eat themselves to death.


Offline Warren Dew

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Re: Paleo vs. Vegan
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 07:43:51 AM »
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Aztecs in Central America who ate corn
I like this part especially.  They forgot to mention the part about the Aztecs being so meat starved they executed prisoners by the hundreds and ate them.

Offline el cogollero

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Re: Paleo vs. Vegan
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 11:29:27 AM »
I have a new friend who is involved in semi anarchist groups and she has a lot of vegan friends.... she's been telling them all about me.... vegans and vegetarians are pretty rare in Spain but cavemen are unheard of....she said that quite a few of them gave her heated lectures on how wrong my diet is, to the point where she had to remind them that it wasn't her that was on it.....I'm not especially looking forward to meeting them.

On the other hand it might be interesting - I don't think I'd dare tell them I eat bull fighting meat though....