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Offline Warren Dew

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Are paleo kids better behaved?
« on: January 27, 2010, 02:45:41 PM »
Our daughter Margaret isn't strictly paleo at the moment - long story - but we're trying to keep her as close as possible.  We're feeding her paleo solids, and while we give her dairy, we try to get that part of her diet as close to human breast milk as possible by combining the right ratios of milk, cream, and dairy based formula.  She's a long way from standard American toddler fare, as we don't give her starchy or grain based baby foods; her macronutrient balance is pretty close to paleo.

We visited some of her friends for a play date this past weekend, arriving immediately after lunch.  The other kids were kind of hyperactive and noisy for the first few hours, to the point where their parents had to tell them to calm down quite a few times.  I don't think this was just because Margaret was there, as the novelty probably wore off after the first half hour or so.  It did seem pretty normal for modern American kids, except that Margaret was such a contrast, happily playing in a quiet way.

Has anyone else noticed anything like this?  It was as if the other kids were burning off the starchy neolithic portions of their lunch for the first few hours.  Is the way to have a child that's "seen but not heard" to feed them a paleo diet?

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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 03:04:19 PM »
hmmm you may have something there.  My youngest is paleo by nature.  Give her a plate of food and she'll automatically seek out the paleo part.  She's never been big on cookies, cakes, sammys, or anything bready...but she loves fat, meat, eggs, and gravy.  Even at birthday cake....she'll scrape and eat all the icing (fatty part with sweet) and leave the cake.  My other daughter on the other hand....loves everything the opposite and it's been a real struggle to get her to change.  Little by little...I figure as long as they are paleo and understand why before they leave home...I'm good!  And they are way better off than I was at the same age.

My littlest one (she's 3) is the quieter, calmer one by nature.  She's happy to play on her own quietly and cuddle.  she can be rambunctious but she's easy to settle.  The older one has mood swings and is way more sensitive!  She's also the one with a whack of allergies and skin issues and needs to be paleo! 

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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 03:18:43 PM »
There's something to be said about how sugar highs affects kids, probably. On the other hand, personality and upbringing differences could have a bigger effect overall. Eg.: among my cousins, my sibling and me there were a couple clear troublemakers and a couple of chill kids with another one in between. We were all fed pretty much the same (non paleo) diet.
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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 04:28:48 PM »
It's mostly the sugar.

Our 2yr old is definitely a lot more of a handful after having a lot of carbs.  We notice it after he has been drinking juice, or the day after dinner at grandmas house (huge amounts of fruit for dessert, etc).
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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 04:38:25 PM »
I think that a paleo kid would have an advantage just because their blood sugar wouldn't be crashing and spiking every few hours.

My daughter (who is in college now) freaked me out one night when she was 2 years old. My wife heard a noise in the kitchen and woke me. :o We thought someone had broken into our house. I grabbed the baseball bat and crept down the hall and around the corner to find a little girl with the fridge door half open eating a stick of butter!! I still remember the big yellow smeared grin on her cute little face!  ;D

I didn't know about fats and paleo then, but now when I look back on it she may have just been trying to satisfy a natural urge for more fat in her diet. Heaven knows we had bought into the whole fatophobe society at that time.

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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 06:08:37 PM »
Eg.: among my cousins, my sibling and me there were a couple clear troublemakers and a couple of chill kids with another one in between. We were all fed pretty much the same (non paleo) diet.

I certainly wouldn't call these other kids troublemakers.  They were just ... overly energetic for a while.

Given the other responses, I'm thinking it's sugar or other carbs.

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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 07:15:41 AM »
Therei s research that shows that this type of diet helps children with autism and ADD, so I think there is probably something to be said about paleo and behavior.
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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 07:52:33 AM »
Therei s research that shows that this type of diet helps children with autism and ADD, so I think there is probably something to be said about paleo and behavior.

That research was done 30 years ago by Dr. Feingold.  His recommendations are not paleo, but whole unprocessed foods without preservatives, artificial colors, artificial flavors or artificial ingredients. (which by the way you get when you follow paleo).

However, his stance on sugar is real sugar is OK in moderation. He thinks it is the other ingredients in 'junk food' that causes problems

http://www.feingold.org/
 
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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 10:44:33 AM »
http://jcn.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/18/2/113

http://www.springerlink.com/content/vr40331382376623/

More research, still not a strictly paleo diet, but if you eat paleo you would automatically eat the way both research studies were conducted.
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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 10:54:50 AM »
I've got my 6 year old son almost primal (he does eat dairy), and I've noticed a big difference.  He's certainly not a perfect angel, but he's manageable.  ;D

He has also thinned out and grown a couple inches seemingly overnight.    :)

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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 04:22:01 PM »
The "Seven Deadly Sins"

• Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . • Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc)
• Refined foods (salt/sugars etc ) . . • Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant)
• Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . . • Legumes (soy/beans/peas)
• Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc)

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Re: Are paleo kids better behaved?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 04:22:01 PM »