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Overweight vegetarian
« on: June 18, 2014, 09:20:14 AM »
So random thought: there's the guy who frequents the same coffee shop/juice bar that I do in the mornings. He's a professor at the local university. He's hard to miss. I see him biking all over town. He's an outspoken vegetarian... and he has to be almost 300 lbs. Certainly over 275. He's a large guy. One of my friends who knows him, told me that he's one guy you never want to engage in a conversation about diet with because he is militant in his vegetarianism.

Anyhow he came in to the coffee shop/juice bar this morning just ahead of me and ordered a 20 oz "paradise" (pear, orange, and ginger juice blend) and a blueberry scone. I got my usual black coffee.

It just makes me ill because clearly he's someone who buys into the 6 servings of grain a day bullshit that the FDA puts out there that is literally killing America. And apparently he's so sold on that crap, that he literally can't see what it's doing to him. So sad. 

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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2014, 01:42:15 PM »
And we spend 18% of our GDP on health care, twice as much as most countries.  It would be so simple to save that money by getting rid of that recommendation.

I guess we need a stronger cattle lobby or something.


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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 08:47:19 AM »
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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 07:35:08 PM »
You can't engage him in conversation to get him to change his ways. He should realize on his own that what he is doing isn't working.  You can help people only if they seek advice.

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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 09:01:54 PM »
I'm new here and to paleo.  It took me a long time to admit to myself that being vegan was not working.  I was starving all the time and so I binged on unhealthy "Vegan" foods.  I never lost any weight.  I am amazed now on paleo how really satisfied I am.  But I am eating a lot of food.  That concerns me, I am still transitioning so, I need to find my sweat spot I guess.  My point was it is very hard to get over that self righteous vegan attitude.  You are taught that every else is just wrong.  We here's to a little exploration and trying to have an open mind.   


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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2014, 06:44:13 PM »
Mtnman, not to sound dogmatic but "transistioning" can really make the switch more difficult. Go cold turkey, switch to a clean version of paleo (not primal, paleo), with the foods you like. Eat plenty of meat, animal fat, fruits and veggies. Then, after a couple of months on this clean diet, start playing with it if you feel the need. See what you can safely add, one thing at a time. But you'll likely find that you don't want a lot of things you used to eat.

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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 07:17:29 PM »
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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2014, 09:31:36 PM »
Taurine may be part of it, but I suspect the standard carbohydrate/insulin cycle is the biggest driver for most people.  The book "Why We Get Fat" is an good source on this.  Basically, when one eats a lot of carbohydrate, it spikes  blood sugar levels, which causes insulin to spike, which in turn drives all the nutrients - including blood sugar and fatty acids - into the cells, including fat cells.  One then gets hungry and craves more carbohydrate, perpetuating the cycle.

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Re: Overweight vegetarian
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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2014, 07:05:15 PM »
Jay Jay, Thanks for commenting.  Transitioning was a poor choice of works.  I have jumped off the deep end.  I am keeping my carbs below twenty, eating all the fat and protein I want.  What I meant was I may need to make some adjustments as I get used to this.  I think right now I might be overeating because I am enjoying the food so much.  I eat because I like it and I am not really Hungary.  Everyone talks about how you can eat all you want, but really isn't there a limit to how much protein you should be eating.  Or at least some guideline to train me on how much I should be eating.
Also been doing battle ropes, sprints and some weight lifting.  I never like to job.  So I like the HIIT approach.
Thanks Again. 

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Re: Overweight vegetarian
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2014, 02:01:41 PM »
Well, I actually do not eat meat. But I eat fish and eggs and stuff ;). So I would not call myself a true paleo... however, I can be equally frustrated.

Like today. Some of my friends are trying to loose weight and eat healthy. Today one of them posted a list of 'daily food' he should eat. He went to a dietician. I was reading it and I was like... where is the nutrition, where are the veggies and natural stuff?

It is normal here to eat bread for breakfast and for lunch, so the advice was something like:

- Breakfast: bread with light products
- Lunch: bread with light products and it you really wanted you could have some salad
- Dinner: potatoes, lean meat (or some fish) and some vegetables. It is also acceptable to have bread again.
- Snacks fruit, and some nuts
- Maximum 5 eggs a week
- Drink a lot (especially water and tea)

Last year I would have been okay with this. But now I'm like: why all this bread? Why all this processed 'light' food. Why so little veggies? Why not eat good nutritious food? I do not have a problem with eating carbohydrates.. but it is really strange seeing all this people eat healthy and if you think about it... they nearly eat no vegetables or good -not processed- meat at all.
I feel like an outsider with strange ideas.. because they really think they eat lots of good food... even when I hint at eating more vegetables (I sometimes wonder of they even get the recommended 200 grams) they are like 'yeah I like veggies and I eat a lot'... and then they only had a small salad, with lots of pasta or other carbs.