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Offline 21st-century caveman

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Raw Fed Cats - Paleo Diet for our kitties..
« on: August 03, 2007, 02:24:49 PM »
I'm not sure how I stumbled upon this page, but it makes a lot of sense, given what we know about human evolutionary nutrition..

http://www.rawfedcats.org/

From the home page of the site:

Cats have evolved over millions of years to be hunters carnivorous predators and no cat born in this world was ever designed by Nature to eat anything other than a diet consisting of the whole raw bodies of its prey.

Every single cat on the planet both wild and domestic - is, by definition, an obligate carnivore. This means that the essential nutrition they require to thrive may only be found in sufficient quantities in the flesh of other animals. And all cats, from their sharp, pointy teeth to their short, efficient digestive tracts, are made to consume and process that flesh in its whole, raw state. Such is the truly natural diet of any cat.


Sound familiar?   :)
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Re: Raw Fed Cats - Paleo Diet for our kitties..
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2007, 12:54:37 AM »
When I was a kid, we used to feed our cats and dogs fresh meat or fish when it was caught or when we prepared it before dinner. Not anymore though.

Maybe it's the media's focus or maybe it's because domestic animals have to be shipped away to be slaughtered, and there are tons of restrictions for hunting and fishing in the outdoors - and less of these animals and the fish because of pollution and more. Think about the diseases. E-coli, salmonella... You can catch them, and so can they. Sad fact, but I wouldn't feed raw parts of meat to my dog.

Perhaps if I was a part of the slaughter team, say after hunting, and the meat went straight into my freezer, or closest thing; from somebody else's freezer and a 5 min drive to my home. Then I'd also get to check the meat itself, and hopefully, there would be people around who had been doing this for a long, long time and knew what to look for and recognize dangerous meat. Me, or someone on the hunting team, would also been able to see it in the wild. Healthy? Strong? How much food had they had this year?

Please be careful with raw meat.
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Offline 21st-century caveman

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Re: Raw Fed Cats - Paleo Diet for our kitties..
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 09:54:10 AM »
Your points are well taken, KP.  However, keep in mind that cats in the wild hunt and eat small animals, and they survive pretty well on that diet.  I don't know about the cleanliness of these food sources, but apparently they are clean enough for the cats..

Hmmm, maybe wild squirrels, mice, etc.. are cleaner food than the raw meats we find in our grocery store.  Sobering thought!   :o

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Re: Raw Fed Cats - Paleo Diet for our kitties..
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 10:19:32 AM »
I thought that the BARF diet for dogs was a lot more well known than the equivalent for cats. It's the same thing as this.

I for one would not care that much for the health of my animals that I would buy raw meat for them.

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Re: Raw Fed Cats - Paleo Diet for our kitties..
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2007, 06:50:00 PM »
Here there are inexpensive blends of chopped raw meat available for cats.  I give it to my cats all the time.  They have a higher concentration of stomach acid than humans, and are in NO danger of contracting any nasties from raw meat.  Maybe an immunosuppressed cat every now and then gets sick from eating raw meat, but as for the healthy kitty--it what they are meant to be eating every day.  Take a look at the ingredient list of your average can of cat food.  You wouldn't believe the amount of crap they put in to it.  It is sad then number of cats that have died from feline urinary syndrome (caused by excess ash in commercial cat food) because their owners won't give them fresh meat in case it is contaminated! 

As for those bags of dry cat chow with all the cute shapes and unhealthy artificial colors--the pet's owners should eat them, since they are designed to appeal only to human appetites.  Suze


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Re: Raw Fed Cats - Paleo Diet for our kitties..
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 10:22:58 AM »
L.S. - maybe you haven't had pets, but they can become like members of the family.. I've heard of the BARF diet for dogs before, but since I have cats, I had never taken much interest in it.  But I should probably read up on it, since it's related to the paleo diet concept for all animals..

I've also heard that certain animals won't breed in captivity unless they're fed their natural, animal diet. 

Suze- thanks for the insights.  I haven't seen the pre-packaged raw meats for cats, but I'll look around.  Yes, the rawfedcats site brings up the point that cats have strong acids in their digestive systems, which enable them to contend with bacteria and other nasties normally found in their prey.

I found the following information on cats.about.com, at http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/bybrawdiets.htm -

Controlled tests using two groups of cats, getting either raw or cooked food (otherwise identical) revealed:
* After three generations, the "cooked food" group could no longer reproduce
* The same group developed serious medical problems, including mouth and gum infections, bladder problems and heart lesions
* The weakened colony was switched back to raw foods and within four generations became completely healthy again

Is Raw Meat Safe?
Cats' digestive systems are finely tuned to handle things humans can't.  Their stomachs have a highly acidic environment, which is an excellent deterrent to ingested bacteria. In the wild, cats sometimes eat some pretty putrid stuff with no ill effects. Wild cats die more often from infection due to injuries than from food poisoning. However, there are steps you can take if you have concerns about salmonella, e coli, or other bacteria.

* Avoid packaged supermarket ground beef
* Buy "free-range" meat and poultry from a trusted butcher
* Add priobiotics (which help maintain intestinal health) to your raw food mix
* Always use safe handling procedures, and take up and dispose of uneaten food within 30 minutes

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Re: Raw Fed Cats - Paleo Diet for our kitties..
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2007, 06:22:59 AM »
Your points are well taken, KP.  However, keep in mind that cats in the wild hunt and eat small animals, and they survive pretty well on that diet.  I don't know about the cleanliness of these food sources, but apparently they are clean enough for the cats..

Hmmm, maybe wild squirrels, mice, etc.. are cleaner food than the raw meats we find in our grocery store.  Sobering thought!   :o
I wouldn't say they "survive pretty well". Many cats get illnesses, other die. It's more common for more outdoor cats, of course, since they eat more of it. Btw, meat especially for cats; what kind of meat do you think that is?.. (look what they are feeding us...). Don't forget to feed them veggies too!  :)