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Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« on: September 13, 2011, 08:58:41 AM »


http://youtu.be/ohKz9OeiI0g

Please view and share this with as many NON Ron Paul fans you can find. Not trying to preach to the choir... but to educate and inform those who don't know his (and the other candidates') history. Thanks-

Music: "The Only Moment We Were Alone" by Explosions in the Sky

Video: Special Thanks to Veterans for Ron Paul, and "For Liberty" - a film by Chris Rye and Corey Kealiher

Other clips courtesy of:

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
The Young Turks
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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 09:22:52 AM »
I thought you were from the Phillipines?

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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 09:25:38 AM »
I thought you were from the Phillipines?

That got me, too.
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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 01:32:51 PM »
Got me too. He has posted about Ron Paul on his Facebook page.

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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2011, 07:03:13 PM »
Well, Ron Paul has a history of being a horrible racist and his libertarianism is so oversimplified its ridiculous. And of course he seems to think atheists who get sick and can't afford health care should just die. So, no thanks buddy. Maybe I'll start paying attention to the next election in the Philippines and tell you who to vote for after watching some video clips on the internet.

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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 07:24:45 PM »
I actually don't have a problem with Ron Paul.  I was just hoping to avoid a political discussion.

Well, Ron Paul has a history of being a horrible racist and his libertarianism is so oversimplified its ridiculous. And of course he seems to think atheists who get sick and can't afford health care should just die. So, no thanks buddy. Maybe I'll start paying attention to the next election in the Philippines and tell you who to vote for after watching some video clips on the internet.

I don't know about the racism, but I agree that his viewpoints are pretty black and white.  Still, that might be better than the economic mess we're currently in.

As anyone on this forum should know, modern medicine doesn't do all that much to keep us healthy.  I depend on paleo to do that, not my health care plan.

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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 08:10:45 PM »
I am not for or against Ron Paul at this point. But it appears Libertarians and Conservatives are frequently called racists by Liberals and many people just parrot what they hear.

Ron Paul when a practicing doctor actually reduced his fee or treated people for no charge if they didn't have insurance or couldn't afford the full fee.  However, he refused to accept Medicare.

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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 09:19:52 PM »
Well, Ron Paul has a history of being a horrible racist

Could you please link me to evidence of that?
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2011, 10:21:40 PM »
His son failed to become a dentist by the ADA, so instead, he decided to create his own accrediting body to credit himself to be able to practice dentistry. I found that to be a bit amusing

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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 08:24:44 PM »
Well, Ron Paul has a history of being a horrible racist

Could you please link me to evidence of that?

I can't find any copies of his actual newsletters right now. They used to be online. But the article below gives a synopsis.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/01/08/433066/-Ron-Pauls-Racist-Newsletters-Revealed

He has of course denied writing them. First he said he didn't remember writing them, then that it was a ghost writer, then that he didn't know who wrote them. So to me, that means he wrote them, just an assumption but would it really be surprising if he did? He and his son are opposed to civil rights legislation because it infringes on a business' right to segregate. Really? Is that really an important right to protect? His claiming that this opinion is just from his love of free markets rings false for me. It just sounds like the typical kind of dodge that racists use.

This is interesting too: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/01/15/437394/-BREAKING:-Ron-Pauls-Klansman-Kampaign-Koordinator

Take it for what you will but, birds of a feather... He just reminds me of a lot of racists that I've known, most of whom do not consider themselves to be racist. It was just such an ubiquitous institution for so long, a lot of people just don't understand it and can't see it in themselves.

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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 08:51:23 PM »
It's true he is against the civil rights act of 1964. He believes the law violates the Constitution because the Federal government never had authority to dictate what goes on within states when businesses only do business within the state.

However, that argument only holds up if you read the 10th Amendment but don't read sections 1 and 5 of the 14th Amendment:

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Section. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


Have you heard the argument that the 14th Amendment never passed?  This is an interesting read.  As you read it you may want to consider the era in which it was written. However, David Lawrence was a respected journalist who was never considered a racist.

There is No Fourteenth Amendment!
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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2011, 10:48:09 PM »
There is no chance that he is a racist. Sadly some of his beliefs have been grabbed onto by certain racist elements. He has no control over that.

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Everybody knows in my district that I didn't write them and I don't speak like that... and I've been reelected time and time again and everyone knows I don't participate in that kind of language. The point is, when you bring this question up, you're really saying 'you're a racist, or are you a racist?' The answer is no, I'm not a racist. As a matter of fact, Rosa Parks is one of my heroes, Martin Luther King is a hero, because they practiced the libertarian principle of civil disobedience and nonviolence. Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea: you see people in groups. A civil libertarian as myself sees everyone as an important individual.   
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The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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Re: Ron Paul for President of the USA - BEST VIDEO EVER!
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2011, 11:27:40 PM »
I can't find any copies of his actual newsletters right now. They used to be online. But the article below gives a synopsis.

The PDF links in that article presently claim to be links to PDFs of entire issues of The New Republic - they're of the form www.tnr.com/downloads/MonthYYYY.pdf.  I'd be surprised if they ever made PDFs of entire issues available like that.  If the links were for real, wouldn't they be links to the specific articles he was referencing, or better yet, the specific images he was referencing?

Sorry, whether or not Ron Paul wrote that stuff, that article is rather unconvincing as evidence.

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2011, 11:34:42 PM »
It's true he is against the civil rights act of 1964. He believes the law violates the Constitution because the Federal government never had authority to dictate what goes on within states when businesses only do business within the state.

However, that argument only holds up if you read the 10th Amendment but don't read sections 1 and 5 of the 14th Amendment:

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Section. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


The 14th amendment only requires state governments to avoid discrimination; it doesn't prohibit discrimination by individuals or private businesses.  A less expansive interpretation of the commerce clause is still consistent with the 14th amendment.

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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 07:29:18 AM »
It's true he is against the civil rights act of 1964. He believes the law violates the Constitution because the Federal government never had authority to dictate what goes on within states when businesses only do business within the state.

However, that argument only holds up if you read the 10th Amendment but don't read sections 1 and 5 of the 14th Amendment:

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Section. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


The 14th amendment only requires state governments to avoid discrimination; it doesn't prohibit discrimination by individuals or private businesses.  A less expansive interpretation of the commerce clause is still consistent with the 14th amendment.


People believe section 5 of the 14th Amendment which states: "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." is what gives them the right to prohibit discrimination by individuals or private businesses.  It is a bit of a stretch but if you argue otherwise you are labeled a racist.

There are also state and local anti-discrimination laws.
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