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Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« on: March 09, 2011, 04:28:26 AM »
Some 3 days ago my wife and I had had enough seeing the eczematic lesions on the legs of all 3 children: 9, 7 and 6 years old.  Cooked Paleo diet (cooked meat, raw fruit, some cooked veggies) + rice was simply not working.  Cut out rice.

Today was the first day.  Successful day.

Morning:
- yellow mango
- coconut juice and meat

Morning meal
- beef tongue in sauce
- mashed sweet potatoes

Snack
- yellow mango (it's mango season)

Lunch time
- beef tongue in sauce
- mashed sweet potatoes

Snack
- green indian mango

Dinner
- cooked ocean clams
- cooked in soup meaty beef ribs + carrots + saba banana + lettuce

I just ordered from our organic farmer:
- cauliflower
- broccoli
- saba bananas
- carrots

Hopefully we will have another complete paleo day tomorrow.

Meal planning suggestions and other food suggestions and anything that can help my kids stay on track?

(I suck at cooked food, I need your help with cooked food.)
« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 04:30:36 AM by goodsamaritan »

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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 04:41:58 AM »
Kids are more sensitive to bitter flavours.  When I was young I *hated* spinach, now I have no problem with it!  Similar story with 95% of children and brussels sprouts.  Mussels too I disliked as a child because of the bitterness.

Parsnips are great for kids, nice and sweet (for a veggie) and they can take a lot of added fat if you mash them.
Most kids like carrots too
Sweeter greens will probably go down more easily - like mild cabbage
Boiled eggs are usually pretty popular with kids.  We used to have 'eggs and soldiers' (soldiers being buttered bread sliced into length - you did the bread into the runny yolk).  You could make alternative soldiers out of carrots or roast parsnips or even jerky.

good luck!  Can't be easy...



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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 05:42:34 AM »
Get some fatty beef or horse meat minced and let the kids make their own burgers. My kids both love mussels and all other types of seafood.

Ribs are also great done in the oven with some chicken stock - kids love eating with their fingers!
« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 05:48:34 AM by el cogollero »

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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 01:07:49 PM »
It's a tough call. My 16 year old son is your typical teenage boy and will eat almost anything you put in front of him.As a result he eats 60% paleo without even thinking about it.

My 11 year old daughter is a different story. She has always been a fussy eater. If she had her way she would live off cheese, pasta and cookies. That said I have been able to help her develop a taste for some paleo foods like cucumbers, broccoli(go figure?) and other raw fruits and veggies. I make some compromises......substituting rice for pasta. Making tomato sauce with grass fed ground beef beef.She won't go near salmon even though I told her it is pink "girl" fish but she will now eat white fish;ie haddock. I mix sweet potato with white potato to make pink potatoes and now she doesn't balk at the idea of sweet potato.

It is kind of like a dietary insurgency....I am changing their diets slowly, making better(but not necessarily paleo) food choices and switching them away from what they(think) they like. Less cold cereal in the pantry but more fruit on the counter.No ice cream in the freezer but more yogourt in the fridge. No bags of cookies but some organic popcorn with real butter.

Once they get older then they can make their own decisions but right now I think the least I can do is try and offer better choices....even if they are not paleo.

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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 01:19:07 PM »
Kids are more sensitive to bitter flavours.  When I was young I *hated* spinach, now I have no problem with it!  Similar story with 95% of children and brussels sprouts.  Mussels too I disliked as a child because of the bitterness.
The bitterness comes from plant alkali.  The body can use limited amounts of plant alkali to balance pH against excess amino acids from protein intake.  However, amino acids that go into building muscle don't acidify the blood, so no alkali is needed to balance the blood pH against them.

My theory is that kids use a larger proportion of their protein intake for building their bodies, and so need less plant alkali.

That said, one of my daughter's first favorite foods was collard greens - albeit probably more for the fat content than the alkali.


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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 01:21:44 PM »
No ice cream in the freezer but more yogourt in the fridge
I'm not so sure that yogurt is better than ice cream.  Good quality ice cream has a lot more butterfat, which is closer to paleo than anything else in dairy.

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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 01:33:33 PM »
Kids are more sensitive to bitter flavours.  When I was young I *hated* spinach, now I have no problem with it!  Similar story with 95% of children and brussels sprouts.  Mussels too I disliked as a child because of the bitterness.
The bitterness comes from plant alkali.  The body can use limited amounts of plant alkali to balance pH against excess amino acids from protein intake.  However, amino acids that go into building muscle don't acidify the blood, so no alkali is needed to balance the blood pH against them.

My theory is that kids use a larger proportion of their protein intake for building their bodies, and so need less plant alkali.

That said, one of my daughter's first favorite foods was collard greens - albeit probably more for the fat content than the alkali.

I think I read somewhere that kid's tastebuds are most sensitive to bitterness, some theory about how they put stuff in their mouths a lot so need to put off eating toxic plant products?!

Goodsamaritan - if you're really desperate you could do what my parents did.  My mother used to cook usually quite uninspiring meals containing protein, carbs and veg in some for or another.  We had to have some of all 3, and we could choose 'maximum' of the things we liked and 'minimum' of the things we didn't.  But we had to clear our plates, we weren't allowed not to.  I remember sitting for 30 minutes over fish in white sauce, which I hated with a passion.

We didn't get to choose what we ate, we ate what we were given.  If we didn't, we went hungry.  It was pretty harsh!  But kids are only picky if you let them be picky.  It depends how strict you want to be with your kids!

I think because of it though, I never throw away food or leave anything on my plate.  My sister did end up developing an eating disorder though, maybe because my parents were just a little *too* controlling about food.

Maybe the trick is serving up paleo foods you know they like more than the non-paleo alternative.  For example, when I was young I would *always* choose seconds of meat over seconds of potato.

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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 01:44:38 PM »
We need recipes for how to make nonpaleo foods taste bad, so kids won't eat them!

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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 02:05:41 PM »
No ice cream in the freezer but more yogourt in the fridge
I'm not so sure that yogurt is better than ice cream.  Good quality ice cream has a lot more butterfat, which is closer to paleo than anything else in dairy.

Perhaps but it all about fermentation in my books. There is evidence that fermented dairy products are better in that the active bacterial cultures either consume or limit lactose(and other potential antinutrients) while facilitating healthy gut flora. In fact I have even started eating small amounts of Balkan style plain yogourt occasionally for that very reason. I have also started buying cultured butter for them as well.

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Re: Help me make paleo dieters out of my 3 kids
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 04:37:59 PM »
Perhaps but it all about fermentation in my books. There is evidence that fermented dairy products are better in that the active bacterial cultures either consume or limit lactose(and other potential antinutrients) while facilitating healthy gut flora. In fact I have even started eating small amounts of Balkan style plain yogourt occasionally for that very reason. I have also started buying cultured butter for them as well.

Are you doing homemade yogurt?  I saw a recipe for coconut milk yogurt in the Primal Blueprint cookbook that I have, and I'll admit I was curious.