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Offline Warren Dew

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Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« on: September 12, 2010, 08:36:53 AM »
My two year old daughter Margaret is about 80% paleo; with the exception of some cow's milk (long story), she eats mostly meat with some fruit and vegetables.

Last night at a party someone insistently offered to take care of her for a while so my wife and I could do some dancing together.  The person was going to be watching the desk, which is a boring job at that time in the evening, so we figured it wouldn't be too much of an imposition and took advantage of the offer.

What we hadn't banked on was that Margaret would not only be offered the cookies we'd been trying to keep her away from, but also chocolate cake and caffeinated full sugar soda that she didn't even ask for.  After that, she was completely wired for about an hour - going all over the place, running around in circles, etc.  When I picked her up, she felt twice as heavy as usual, because she was squirming so much.

When the sugar crash came, it was just as deep.  Normally when she falls asleep in the car seat, she'll hold her head up when I lift her out long enough for me to put her on my shoulder.  This time, the head just lolled.

Even after she got up this morning, she was unusually distractible.  Usually if she actually asks to do something with me, she'll focus on it; this time she kept getting distracted by other things, like the pen that's always on my desk or the random toy that's been gathering dust on the floor for weeks.  Probably the only reason she was able to recover the main flow of what she was doing was because she'd had all night to sleep most of the sugar off.

You know how ADHD seems so common these days?  The reasons look pretty obvious from here.

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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 01:21:55 PM »
*applauds Warren*

I totally agree - too much sugar and too much crap is given to kids.

I don't understand, either, why adults who are keen to 'take care of their health' seem to find it perfectly acceptable to feed rubbish to their kids.

Note: why didn't the person ask if the child was allowed sugary drinks and food? It's pretty PC to ask these days


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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 09:18:49 PM »
I was a waitress for many years. Watched people give young kids the equivalent of 5 cups of coffee (based on a small bodyweight and how much soda they drank.) I did what I could - talked kids into healthier fare, putting 75% unsweet tea in kids' sweet teas, etc. Middle class folks ate dramatically different than middle and upper class families, too. With corresponding levels of fatness, of course.

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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 09:40:00 PM »
When I was growing up an adult would never give sugary treats to a child without asking the parents first.  Now there seems to be no adults in the room. Just chronologically older fatter children. Some of them in their 30s and 40s.





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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 11:08:08 PM »
I don't understand, either, why adults who are keen to 'take care of their health' seem to find it perfectly acceptable to feed rubbish to their kids.

It can take even more will power to deny things to your child than to yourself.  When you see those tears rolling down their little cheeks, the urge is strong to give in.

Tonight was better - I was able to divert Margaret with strawberries and cream.  Not totally paleo, but much better than her pigging out on cookies and soft drinks.

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Note: why didn't the person ask if the child was allowed sugary drinks and food? It's pretty PC to ask these days

I don't think she was very familiar with taking care of children.  Plus, it's pretty hard to resist giving things to Margaret.  The force of cuteness has power over weak minds and all that.


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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2010, 12:12:31 AM »
I am reading this thread and there is a Concerta advertisement above.  I click on it and am taken to the Concerta page.  It is a medication for ADHD.  But Google searching you find a warning that it is habit forming.

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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2010, 06:49:16 AM »
I wonder if this person didn’t know how to keep a two year old occupied so they just kept feeding her.  It doesn’t surprise me Margaret was offered a cookie…but cookies AND cake? 
Wow and then soda???…I had to go back and check, yup you said she was only two!  I’m guessing this person offering the goodies doesn’t have kids of her own! 

Times have sure changed, soda was off limits when I was a kid.  The six pack of coke that was in the house was mixer for adult drinks on occasions when company was invited for dinner period.     

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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2010, 09:05:25 AM »
I wonder if this person didn’t know how to keep a two year old occupied so they just kept feeding her.  It doesn’t surprise me Margaret was offered a cookie…but cookies AND cake? 
Wow and then soda???…I had to go back and check, yup you said she was only two!  I’m guessing this person offering the goodies doesn’t have kids of her own!

I think it's exactly that she didn't have a kid of her own.  I think maybe she was a bit envious of siblings who had kids, and wanted the chance to take care of - that is, spoil - a kid for an hour or so.

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Times have sure changed, soda was off limits when I was a kid.  The six pack of coke that was in the house was mixer for adult drinks on occasions when company was invited for dinner period.

Same with me.  Of course, back then, I believe soda was a lot more expensive than milk, which may also have been a factor.

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Re: Kid-unfriendly snacks ... and hyperactive play
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2010, 11:55:03 AM »
When I was a child my mother was pretty strict and we weren't allowed many sweet treats.  Dessert was fruit about 80% of the time.  She would despair over the fact that other parents would give us sugary stuff, obviously we loved going to friends houses and getting cookies etc.

Fast forward to now and both myself (on paleo) and my sister (probably about a 7 on the scale of SAD to paleo) eat very little sugar and are slim.  Both my stepsisters, who had a more permissive diet, are now overweight.  What parents feed their kids influences what they eat all through their adult life.

On the flipside, I am certain that the fact that my mother was so controlling about food was a contributing factor in my sister then developing anorexia at the age of 20.

We were also never allowed juice or soda.  To this day I have never had any fillings or cavities - despite the fact that the enamel on my teeth is, for want of a better word, crappy.  I read an article in the newspaper today about a woman who felt much better after weaning her 2 year old off breast milk, and how happy she was than a few days after suggesting her friend wean her 3 year old of breast, she saw said child drinking juice instead.
Now of course it's more than acceptable to wean a 3 year old of breast milk but...onto juice?!?!  aaargh!!