Author Topic: Raising Kids Paleo, how do you do it?!?!  (Read 9196 times)

Offline samjohn

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Re: Raising Kids Paleo, how do you do it?!?!
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2010, 07:44:02 PM »
Not letting your kid socialize with other kids would probably be more damaging than eating a cake every now and then.

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Re: Raising Kids Paleo, how do you do it?!?!
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2010, 06:07:18 AM »
My daughter likes hamburger, hot dogs. She eats some veggies as long as they are plain. She loves yogurt and pasta. Where would she get her calcium from if she doesn't drink regular cow's milk or soy milk. She takes a multi vitiman but I don't think that's enough to cover her required calcium. And she loves her cow's milk. She is a very finicky eater and I can't get her to eat spinach where she could get some calcium from. I may not be able to get her to go all Paleo. So I may just try to cut out the sugar as much as possible. She does love fruit and will certainly go for more berries anytime. I'd still like to try weaning her off of the cow's milk and onto the almond milk. That doesn't have as much calcium in it however, as cow's milk.
Any suggestions?

How old is your daughter?

After weaning, they should be able to get their calcium from leafy green vegetables, bone broth, etc.


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Re: Raising Kids Paleo, how do you do it?!?!
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2010, 06:15:19 AM »
Not letting your kid socialize with other kids would probably be more damaging than eating a cake every now and then.

I'm unconvinced.  I think socializing with adults is more valuable to kids than socializing with other kids - especially other kids of the same age.  There must have been one child bands during the paleolithic.

It's a false dichotomy, though.  Kids can get plenty of socializing without going to food related activities.  You get a birthday once a year, but you can go to the playground or park every day.

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Re: Raising Kids Paleo, how do you do it?!?!
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2010, 06:46:25 AM »
Not letting your kid socialize with other kids would probably be more damaging than eating a cake every now and then.

I'm unconvinced.  I think socializing with adults is more valuable to kids than socializing with other kids - especially other kids of the same age.  There must have been one child bands during the paleolithic.

It's a false dichotomy, though.  Kids can get plenty of socializing without going to food related activities.  You get a birthday once a year, but you can go to the playground or park every day.

I can agree with that absolutely.

But I think you'd be very mistaken to think that socialising with your parents could ever possibly be enough for a growing child. In my opinion, one child bands would have been a rarity if only due to the high mortality rate in the period between birth and adulthood.

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Re: Raising Kids Paleo, how do you do it?!?!
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2010, 07:25:18 AM »
This is the very same as other eating restrictions due to allergies or religious issues.  Keep caveman in the home.  The kids will ask why we eat this way, explain it to them, do not lie to them.  Telling them that they have food allergies and they may get very sick......will be put to the test.   Then you will be found out, and discredited.  Honestly, I think I would just simply say at the schools and so forth, I'm sorry, our family does not participate in eating ------------------.  Then fill in the blank depending on how caveman you and your family are at the time.  You will of course get questions, you choose to answer or not and if you choose to answer the questions to what degree.

Yes the kids will sneak food,  peer pressure will encourage them to try the chips etc...  But you have to keep in mind, that by that time, they will have had no cane sugars or other sugars, let alone large doeses of salt, so they probably will not like the junk food any way.

I found that my in-laws (outlaws?!) were the biggest problem when it came to giving the boys stuff they should not of had, but I will leave your future in-laws to you.  ;)

Good points.  I was thinking about this all day yesterday.  Wondering, "what would I do as  parent????"  I just think it's silly to have do DEFEND why we/you/whomever eats the way they do.  I don't ask someone who's shoving a quarter pounder in their face WHY they are eating it.  It just seem to me that parenting is hard enough and then to throw Paleo eating into the mix only makes it harder...but it doesn't have to I guess.

I think the hardest part about it is when they school age, yes?  Especially once they start asking the Q's of why they can't eat certain things.....


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Re: Raising Kids Paleo, how do you do it?!?!
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2010, 08:51:17 AM »
But I think you'd be very mistaken to think that socialising with your parents could ever possibly be enough for a growing child. In my opinion, one child bands would have been a rarity if only due to the high mortality rate in the period between birth and adulthood.

Out of curiousity, what do you think children get out of socializing with other children that they can't get from socializing with adults or parents?  In my experience, the main reason parents want kids to socialize with other kids is so the parents will have some time to themselves.

With respect to the paleolithic, I would agree that one child bands would not have been the rule.  However, during the ice ages especially, there was climate variation that would have caused population declines at times, along with population increases at other times.  During times of population decline, there must certainly have been times when many people saw only one child live to adulthood.

Combine that with the fact that hunter gatherer childhood mortality is on the order of 50%, which suggests that paleolithic childhood mortality was no more than 50%, and I think there would have been a significant number of single child families during the times of declining population.  Evolutionarily, the ability of such children to be successful anyway would have been important to keeping a gene line alive until the next "good" period.

Of course, that's complicated by the question of whether there was more than one breeding female per band - lions do that, wolves don't - and also the question of whether there were nonbreeding individuals and how many, both of which would tend to push the number of children per band upwards.  On the other hand, parents can also have additional children after previous children have grown to adulthood, which would tend to push the number of children per band downward.

There may or may not also be social behavior that one needs to learn to function in modern society that weren't present in the paleolithic.