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Miscellaneous / "grass fed"
« on: June 26, 2014, 06:36:35 AM »
So I've been pondering lately that grass fed may not mean very much.  I mean, technically corn is a grass.  All grains grow on grasses by definition.  I'm not really an expert on this part of Paleo.  Should I be limiting myself to "pastured"?

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Food Journals / Experimental Thoughts - High Protein Fasting
« on: June 26, 2014, 05:40:06 AM »
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Miscellaneous / Cool images?
« on: June 17, 2014, 10:29:13 AM »
Is there an option for adding a custom image next to my name?  I tried a couple of times, and then the image just disappeared.  Is there a trick to it?

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Food Journals / Give me fat or give me chronic pain!
« on: June 13, 2014, 01:52:39 PM »
I haven't figured out everything about cron-o-meter yet.  So not sure how to copy paste the text.  There are rumors of exporting it, but it will take time to get to where I'm an expert in it.  For the moment, I'm taking a screenshot and it works in a limited way.

The breakdown of fats etc says I was at 71%+ that day.  Not bad, but I prefer 75% or higher.  I was trying not to choose a day that was too "angelic" or too "cheating." 

The dairy requires some comment.  I started ketogenic and then modified toward Paleo.  I still do eat dairy because I'm by necessity ketogenic and it makes my life so much easier.  But I stay away from anything but the cream and ferments. For those who eat cheese, colby is interesting because it has a washing process that I suspect removes much more of the lactose than most cheese.  Well, if you get a good one. I've never had a gut issue from it and I'm very very prone to gut reactions (not the good kind).  So that's my view on dairy for now.  I didn't eat it for many years so that's playing into my preference, I'm sure.  It still seems like a luxury.  I'm sure the glamor will wear off.

The big surprise nutritionally is that the more Paleo I eat, the better my numbers look nutritionally, and the lower my carbohydrates look (assuming I'm avoiding fruit, or limiting to 1/2 cup).  B1 is the vitamin I most often have to supplement, as is folate, despite monster salads on some days.  Every day I take at least 2-4 tsp of Nordic n-3 oil to balance the n-6 naturally found in beef or whatever I have been eating.  I try to avoid too much oil, but I'm not too fanatical yet (as the Hidden Valley Ranch shows). 

I don't do salt and my condiments don't include anything with garlic/onions as I can't digest FODMAPS without pain.  I got used to it. Curry helps, if you get a book that explains how to mix it yourself.

As time goes on I may post some others as time allows.  Please feel free to make suggestions for improvement.  Constructive help is always appreciated.  I hope you find my list as useful as I found everyone else's.

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Introductions / My overdue intro - and incomplete success story
« on: June 11, 2014, 08:31:49 AM »
Hi there,  I'm over 40, female and eastern European by genetic ancestry.  My grandmother still spoke two languages besides English and taught me some.  With the result that when I read Stefansson's "My life with the Eskimo" I recognized some of the system of suffixes and infixes as similar (in form, not substance) to Hungarian - I think that's so cool but I have no idea what it means.  I didn't figure out how to take care of my health until it went totally bonkers and I really had to do something because every doctor was looking at me not like an interesting medical puzzle, but as an annoyance that was probably just looking for a drug fix.  Actually I was just miserable and in chronic pain and finding out fast that compassion or even attention is rare among people who have 15 minutes to spend with you. 

One of my doctors told me to "work on my diet" about a year ago so I did.  Having given up vegetarianism about 3 years before that, I thought I'd try some of the new popular vegan diets out there - that was my mental tendency at the time.  When I was younger, vegan was the ultimate "naughty" and "rebel" thing to do, not like today when it's the approved low fat, high carb way of life, and rapidly on its way to approval by the medical and dietetic communities. 

To make a long story short, I tried various vegan and vegetarian styled eating plans and they all failed to give results.  They made me bloated, inflamed and mentally slow.  I kept thinking that it was yet another "detox" and I just needed to get more strict, until I got frustrated and tried Atkins, and it worked.  Then it was like, OK, why did this work?  During the research on that, I figured out lots of things like the effect of saturated fats, especially stearic acid on omega-6 (it can be crowded out so that in effect, beef fat can create an anti-inflammatory effect).  Udo Erasmus had told me many of the things I later rediscovered, but his conclusions were wrong and I had never questioned them before.  The facts were in his book, he just misinterpreted some of them.  I'd read his book around 1993, but I re-read Fats and Oils recently and got more out of it this time.

The higher I took my fat, the better I felt and soon I was off of controlled medications and had discovered ketosis via high fat.  I was already fasting (vegans who based their diets on natural hygiene fast anyway, so fasting-ketosis is no stranger).  After a few long term fasts (one 10 day and another 20 day), I was off of the rest of the medications, except for a few that have been there since the beginning and are directly related to my neurological headaches. I'm hoping that if I'm successful in losing the rest of the weight (I'm down 50 lbs and hope to lose 80 more), I can at least reduce some of them too. 

It was never just about ketosis though. It was also about anti-inflammation which eventually led me to Weston Price and later.. Paleo, and gut health, which led me to the FODMAP concept. I'm juggling a lot of ideas around because I'm trying to get healthy, not just change my diet to fit Paleolithic ancestors.  That said, I've been trying to think about what people ate for tubers before potatoes in Europe.  Probably turnips, which aren't too terribly high in carbs themselves yet taste quite a bit like potatoes when cooked right.  Obviously I'm not going to live on horse meat, which my Paleo ancestors probably did, but deer and a modern version of aurochs are both available as are ducks which I prefer over chickens as they are fatter. 

Fish are still important to the modern Hungarians and a spicy red hot fish stew is made with swirling manly mystery surrounding it.  Not being well supplied with Hungarian men in my life, I have to do my best to re-create it (they actually
don't allow women to make it, lol - well maybe in today's egalitarian PC world they do, but not when I was growing up).  The recipe is so simple I can't imagine it is "modern" by any stretch of the imagination.  If you want to watch some youtube videos of it in a foreign language, try "halaszle" as a keyword. English recipes call for carp because it's "close enough" in flavor to the multiple fish, which I think was a minimum of 3, and should be 5 different types of river fish from the Tisza and/or Danube.

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Diet and nutrition / What is a pseudograin? (quinoa, buckwheat.. ?)
« on: June 10, 2014, 12:03:00 AM »
So apparently some sources say that quinoa and buckwheat are pseudograins because they're really "fruiting bodies" that just happen to be tiny.  I guess by that token we can include fennel, but I doubt we'll be seeing any fennel seed pilaf anytime soon.  The finer points of seeds escape me when talking about Paleo.  Did different people on different continents use seeds differently in Paleo times?  I imagine so, but I'm still not sure of the finer points. 

I used to think the entire terminology of pseudograin was marketing hype to keep people buying grains after most grains had been shown to be harmful.  But now I can see they have more protein than other grains... still 50% more protein than 1 gram is 1.5g so I'm not rushing out to buy any.  It's just something that makes me go "hmm.."  Anyone with insight into this mystery?  Are pseudograins as toxic as regular grains?  Could paleolithic people have used them?

Quinoa is listed by name in the paleo flowchart, but since the hair is now split into a pseudograin / fruiting body, I'm not sure it applies strictly as written.  It's simpler to just skip it, but it seems to me the point of a forum is to ask such fun questions.  I mean... we eat fruits that contain seeds.  The question is, did our ancestors eat such tiny seeds/fruits?   Another claim being made is that they're not really grains because they don't grow on grasses.  But from the POV of Paleo people, the question is, can you pick it and eat it without breaking a tooth? I'm not sure what the texture is when fresh. 

I'm asking purely academically because on my diet, there's little point.  I'm just curious what people think. 

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