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Diet and nutrition / Breakfast?
« on: September 07, 2012, 07:38:58 AM »
Seems like my breakfast consists mostly of eggs, which are ok but I can only eat so many...
And bacon, smoked salmon and sausages. All of which have way too much salt and even the best sausages and bacon have nitrates.

Anyone have suggestions for breakfast? Something quick I can do before work on a weekday.

Diet and nutrition / Negative article in the NY Times
« on: August 28, 2012, 05:50:17 AM »

Pretty much what I've heard/though of before.  The question of animal protein to fruits/veggies ratios is an interesting one.

Diet and nutrition / Does anyone use a meal planner?
« on: August 20, 2012, 03:15:01 PM »
I am checking some out now, seems pretty good.  Of course there is no 'Paleo' diet restriction but you can submit recipes so I'm sure a few of us on there and we'd have a nice collection.  The only problem I'm running into is it seems to get confused about 'obscure' ingredients like coconut milk (buy coconut, buy milk etc).  You can edit your list tho by hand.

Every week I make up a meal plan, paste in a bunch of ingredient lists from recipes and combine them into a grocery list by hand, then email it to myself.  There must be a better way!

Diet and nutrition / Why isnt raw honey paleo?
« on: August 11, 2012, 09:29:42 AM »
I see a lot of books saying honey isn't paleo.  I'm sure its not a good thing to have every day, but I don't understand why it's forbidden as an occasional addition to recipes etc?

He said "How do you feed grass to butter?"


So, my two problems are 1. I really enjoy alcohol, to put it mildly but 2. After a serious work out including cardio and strength training I find myself FIENDING for carbs.  I just bought Cordain's book cardio for athletes, I'm going to check it out this weekend.

Anyone got any suggestions for quick carby paleo snacks to cure the craving?  I usually get into trouble when I feel 'too hungry to cook' and want food now, not 40 minutes or an hour from now.

Yes, I know. More will power. But like maybe I could make sweet potato chips in olive oil or tallow w/o the salt?

Someone posted this on reddit.  Pretty shocking to me, personally.

More evidence maybe it's diet?

Still, I cant see how people get in shape like this, diet or no, without vigorous exercise which is certainly not the way of the average american:

Workout Journals / Any of you guys on Fitocracy?
« on: July 26, 2012, 05:00:10 AM »
If so, hit me up.  There's a Paleo group!

Diet and nutrition / Any of you order online paleo stuff?
« on: July 24, 2012, 09:10:55 AM »
Was thinking of ordering some stuff from here:

Any of you guys ordered from him before or other sites you can recommend/not recommend?


Diet and nutrition / Game meat vs Domestic
« on: July 20, 2012, 05:00:33 AM »
So I've been eating turkey bacon, since I figured our ancestors were eating things like wild boar, not a domestic pig, which I naturally figured had a huge fat content difference.  Apparently not so much.  I'm also surprised that beef vs bison seem so close.

Although I know a lot of people like saturated fat content here, I'm starting to wonder what squirrels taste like! Hah.

Diet and nutrition / Grapeseed oil vs Olive Oil.
« on: July 19, 2012, 09:30:31 AM »
I've heard that Olive Oil breaks down under heat, and that it shouldn't be used for cooking.  Many of the people who say this advocate using Grapeseed oil.
Paleo says Grapeseed oil has a poor omega3/6 ratio and should be avoided and Olive Oil used instead.  I didnt see any Coconut oil in Wholefoods.

What do you guys think?

Food Journals / Arcane's Food Journal
« on: July 18, 2012, 05:22:43 PM »
Hey all, I tried Paleo a few years ago (3? 4?) straight after coming off vegetarianism.  I even had an account here.  It didnt last too long.  Main reasons 1. Alcohol. I was drinking a lot.  I've mellowed out now a bit ;) 2. Expense.  I was eating grass-fed Bison steaks to the tune of $20 a pop all the time and huge slabs of tuna and salmon.  Delicious yes, but also wicked expensive.

So I'm giving this another try, starting tomorrow.

Research / Cordain versus Eaton/Konner
« on: June 10, 2009, 04:48:40 PM »
So after reading Cordain's the Paleo Diet, I did a little looking into the history of the Paleo Diet.   I got a hold of the original NEJM article, The Paleo Prescription and The Stone-Age Health Program (all from the 1980s).

What Eaton/Konner recommend is quite different from what most people here would call paleo:
60/20/20 carbs, protein, fat
Pretty much no red meat/pork unless its game meat.
Diary such as skim milk, cottage cheese is fine.
Whole grains are good for you.  Whole wheat toast is not a bad thing.
Eat all the night-shades you want.

Of course, there are plenty of places where everyone would agree:

Refined carbs are the tool of the devil.
You should eat more polyunsatured than monounsatured, and satured is to be very limited in quantity

I guess when I have time I'll read through it all and maybe give a review, but I found the contrast interesting. From wiki:

In 1985, Melvin Konner and S. Boyd Eaton, an associate clinical professor of radiology and an adjunct associate professor of anthropology at Emory University, published a key paper on Paleolithic nutrition in the New England Journal of Medicine,[30] which allowed the dietary concept to gain mainstream medical recognition.[31] Three years later, S. Boyd Eaton, Marjorie Shostak and Melvin Konner published a book about this nutritional approach,[32] which was based on achieving the same proportions of nutrients (fat, protein, and carbohydrates, as well as vitamins and minerals) as were present in the diets of late Paleolithic people, not on excluding foods that were not available before the development of agriculture. As such, this nutritional approach included skimmed milk, whole-grain bread, brown rice, and potatoes prepared without fat, on the premise that such foods have the same nutritional properties as Paleolithic foods.[27][33][34] In 1989, these authors published a second book on Paleolithic nutrition.[35][36]

Diet and nutrition / Saving money while eating Paleo?
« on: June 01, 2009, 02:55:57 PM »
So far, I've been enjoying eating all sorts of fresh fruits, fresh meats, fresh veggies.  I started shopping at the local Whole Foods, and they offer Bison steaks and organic everything!  One problem.  Cost.

When I was a vegetarian, I'd buy groceries about every two weeks, it would be around $110-125.  I've been racking up $150 a _week_ at Whole Foods.  I mean, I eat like a paleo-king with bison flank steak and fresh fruit from far-off lands, but it's getting a bit pricey.

Anyone have any suggestions as to how to not go broke while doing this? I live in the city so hunting my own game/planting food isn't an option ;)

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