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Miscellaneous / Re: Knives
« on: January 01, 2009, 05:24:52 AM »
Nah.... this is a knife that I found during a survey years ago:

Introductions / Re: Have no fear.. I have arrived
« on: January 01, 2009, 05:21:46 AM »
Stir Fries:  I'm a typical bloke in that I love to cook with my favourite toys, which include my trusty old wok :)  My favourite stir fry is mixed game meat (venison, partridge, pheasant), mushrooms, spring onions, bell peppers, chilli pepper, ginger, garlic, a little broccoli, and whatever else I have in my pantry!  However, although I don't try to be a true paleo, I am perhaps a little naughty in using groundnut oil to cook, and a little sesame oil for flavour.  Does anyone know a paleo substitute for groundnut oil that works at the high temperatures of wok frying over a high flame (gas stove)?

Stews:  Another toy is my electric slow cooker - stews.  For example, last night I had a stew of lamb hearts, button mushrooms, wild bolette mushrooms, oyster mushrooms (I like mushrooms), onion, swede (rutabaga), parsnip, garlic, and stock.

Grills:  I own a small George Foreman grill that gets used more days than not.  Ideal for grilling kippers, tuna, salmon, lamb's liver, pilchards, peppers, etc.

Steam:  Electric three tier steam cooker.  I steam tonnes of vegetables in it, also some fish.

Pan frying:  I often have mushroom omelettes.  Especially during the autumn, when I collect wild mushrooms.

Day to day I'm most likely to have grilled fish, and steamed vegetables

Exercises / Re: Is everyone overlooking running???
« on: January 01, 2009, 05:01:06 AM »
I run and strength train.  Sure I've read all of the articles based on recent research that running is bad for us, damages bone, muscle, blah blah blah.   I think that this is one of those issues that everyone has to decide for themselves.  For me, at the age of 46, I don't want nor expect to look like some raging hulk.  I want to be fit and healthy; and the style of exercise that seems to suit me most is to practice both running and strength training.  I tend to focus on one or the other for periods of time.  At the moment, I mainly prefer to run.  Another time, no doubt I'll be concentrating on squatting again.

However - I don't marathon run.  I run cross country with my dogs harnessed to me for distances of 2 to 8 miles only.  We frequently stop to water the dogs etc, and we sometimes sprint - usually when the dogs see some game.

It makes me feel fit and healthy.  So does a good workout with the barbell and pull up bar - but in a very different way.

Running is also about GETTING OUTSIDE, taking in the fresh air and daylight, and on clearing the mind of stress.  Lifting alone doesn't do this.

The final thing that convinced me that running is for me, is meeting lots of other runners my age or older - male and female.  It seems to me that running keeps them younger.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Eggs:how many and what kind do you eat?
« on: January 01, 2009, 04:48:24 AM »
Probably too many.  Maybe 8 to 12+ per week.  I buy organic free range eggs.

imike24 may have a dodgy link in their sig, but its a shame, because I wholy agree with that statement:

It is best to eat everything is moderation. This way will reduce the harmful effects.

I'm not true Paleo and I prefer to take my mesolithic ancestors as role models for diet rather than base my eating habits on some two million year old fossil from East Africa.  My mesolithic ancestors would have eaten eggs in Spring/Early Summer only.  They would have eaten the eggs of any birds.  Maybe coastal hunter-gatherers may have scaled cliff face seabird colonies.  More recently, my grandparents would eat the eggs not only of wild ducks and geese, but also of moorhens:

Diet and nutrition / Re: some ramblings
« on: January 01, 2009, 04:33:39 AM »
Interesting.  You can buy a whole wild rabbit here about two quid (three US dollars), and a dressed (skinned and jointed) rabbit for 3 to 6.  Years ago they were the main meat of the English rural working classes - the normal 'Sunday Roast' or rabbit stew.  Then during the 1950s, myxomatosis was introduced, and the wild rabbit population was decimated.  They eventually recovered, but the public were so put off by the idea of eating diseased meat, that rabbit was no longer regarded as desirable food.  I guess that this worked to the benefit of farmers who were using intensive farming methods to put more and more cheap pork, chicken, beef on to our tables.

It became quite common for gamekeepers to gas them in their burrows, or shoot them at night - and not to even bother picking up the carcasses!

I started eating wild rabbit years ago, when I use to hunt them myself using ferrets to chase them out of the burrows into purse nets.

Apparently though wild rabbit is starting to enjoy a slight come back in the UK:

Diet and nutrition / Re: leanest cuts of meat???
« on: December 28, 2008, 03:48:43 AM »
A quick Google and here is one site.

We don't get a lot of prairie fed livestock here in the uk ;)

However, I eat more fish than mammal meat.  Sardines, pilchards, mackerel, herring, cod, salmon, tuna, etc.  I also eat quite a lot of shellfish and some crab.

During the winter months British wild game meats are available - venison, rabbit, game birds, pigeon, etc.

I do eat domestic bird and mammal meats also - lamb, lamb liver, chicken, turkey, beef, ox heart, lamb kidneys, etc.  If you want lean domestic meat - then the white meat of chicken or turkey.  I understand that ostrich is particularly lean, and is farmed locally.

The secret is to kep it varied and unprocessed.  Wild, grass fed, organic and local when practical.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Nuts/Seeds/Nut Butters
« on: December 16, 2008, 09:19:27 AM »
I think that nuts are an underrated Paleo item.  Hunter-gatherers find this seasonal food important because it is so energy-dense, and easy to gather.  My NW European ancestors certainly exploited them during the Fall, and also knew how to process and store them for times of need.  For example:  Mesolithic food industry on Colonsay.  I've seen a reconstruction of this event by Paleo advocate and leading UK TV Survivalist Ray Mears - who like myself, frequently refers to the British Mesolithic way of life.  Basically Ray cooked the hazelnuts in an clay lined earth oven and mashed the nuts into a pulp.

Pollen dating suggests that some of the English moors (upland areas of open grassland) were deforested during the Mesolithic.  Suggestions are that humans were burning back forestry either or both: a) to create an environment more suitable to hunting of herd species.  I believe that N.American hunters did a similar thing?  and b)  Hazel is a species that recovers from fires.  It may have increased hazelnut yields.

Just a few thoughts...

Diet and nutrition / Re: Did you tell everyone when you "went Paleo?"
« on: December 16, 2008, 07:05:16 AM »
No.  I already ate a 'healthy' balanced meal.  I just cut down the grains and dairy (I'm semi-paleo I guess).  I cannot always resist a free handout of cakes or candy!  I admire you for resisting all such evils - I couldn't commit myself that far long term.

People already knew me as a health food freak, so no change really - just more fish!

Diet and nutrition / Re: Nuts/Seeds/Nut Butters
« on: December 16, 2008, 07:00:10 AM »
I don't consider myself an expert, and I still hold a calorie based view that some low carbers disagree with - but I think that you just cracked the nut ;)

If you want to lose weight then you have to consider the energy content of nuts / seeds.

If you want to keep healthy and fit then include regular nuts and seeds!

If it was me, then I eat lots of nuts and some seeds normally.  But if I weigh in heavy and feel fat, then I regulate them during a fast period of calorie reduction.

Food Journals / Re: The Dog's Dinner
« on: December 16, 2008, 06:28:15 AM »
I'm not going to post everything that I consume, every kilometre that I run, or every rep that I lift - I can't be bothered!  I'm going through a lazy phase - my excuse is the running injury, Christmas, and that I'm under extra stress having recently taken on a new job with more responsibility (I work as an engineer in a biomass power station).  However, I start holidays in a few days (a real treat as I often have to work right through the holiday period), and I have vowed to start both strength training and maybe running then.  I have also vowed to have a four week Paleo fast once the holiday food has gone.

Talking about fasts, I re-examined this diary the other night, and it struck me that far from abandoning all Paleo principles since May - many of them have become stamped into my lifestyle.  I just need to cut out (or down) the cheats i.e. peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, and at least reduce my red wine and chinese takeaway intake .... and I'm pretty much where I want to be.  In particular, I have managed quite well to eat 'lots of plants', and I match or exceed the 'five daily portions' most days.  I have also managed to consume a whole lot of greens, principally broccoli, and raw spinach/rocket/water cress.  I also eat a lot of nuts - walnuts, almonds, hazel nuts, chestnuts, pecans, pine, brazil, etc.  I want to reduce the nut intake during my fast, as they are so energy dense.  I have also managed to continue to eat A LOT of seafood.  I have a bit of a reputation at work for always eating fish, and some complaints about the smells rising from my George Foreman grill - spreading to the control room.  I can't understand their problem?  Some of that seafood is smoked, and even salted (I love kippers for breakfast), but what the heck!

I have also continued to eat some offal, mainly lamb's liver and kidneys, and I am eating wild meats when available.  Wild meats are most available at this time of year, and I am so pleased that the local superstore is selling trays of game meat (and it is game meat - I've nearly lost teeth on lead shot :) ).  Whenever I buy a tray, I buy an extra one for the freezer.  The trays contain diced meat from local wild deer, pheasant, and partridge.  Now, I am aware that pheasant and partridge are mainly young birds that have been released into the wild, are fed by game keepers, etc - but its still better than farmed meat, its leaner, and still has that gamey taste (suggesting that it has consumed wild food?).  Anyway, it saves me hunting around game dealers and specialist butchers.  I also have plenty of wild rabbit in the freezer, and can sometimes buy dressed rabbit at Norwich market.  Included in wild meats are some of my seafish (maybe I should try catching and eating some of the local freshwater 'coarse' fish next summer - its popular with some of the East European migrants here, but a VERY unEnglish thing to do!) and some of the shellfish.  I have a particular liking for local crab :)

By the way, I have become utterly bored with steamed vegetables and steamed fish.  I still eat these sort of meals two or three times per week at least, but as a special regular treat, I've reinstituted my trusty old wok, and started stirfrying again.  Fresh ginger, garlic, chillis, and spring onions, lots of fresh vegetables, mushrooms, and diced game meat or prawns - delicious!  The only problem is that I use groundnut oil.  Does anyone know a Paleo substitute that works at such high temperatures?

Food Journals / Re: The Dog's Dinner
« on: December 14, 2008, 03:16:29 PM »
It has been seven months since I went off on my walk and stopped posting on this forum.  In that time I haven't been true to a Paleo diet, but I do still live a lifestyle that is enfluenced by the Paleo philiosophy.

I was to an extent choked off by some people's fundamentalist approach to the diet.  In particular - the thou shalt not eat any grain, dairy, legume, bean, root, starch, potato, cooked food, etc, etc brigade.  The thing that fires my enthusiasm for the Paleo approach is that I love prehistory, and I agree with the basic arguments for a return to a healthier diet.  The hunter-gatherers that I visualise are not fossils from African plains, but the late palaeolithic and mesolithic hunter-gatherers of Western Europe - my ancestors!  All of the available evidence suggests that they didn't live on bacon and tropical fruit.  They ate a wide variety of food - the meat and offal of mammals, shellfish, nuts, berries, fungi, wild greens, roots, fish, fowl, seeds, etc.  They were opportunists and far from restricting their foodstuffs - they would have consumed a varied (and seasonal) diet of wild foods.  They almost certainly would have been aware of the need to cook and process some foods to remove toxins.  Perhaps this ability was what seperated survivors from nonsurvivors during those genetic bottlenecks? 

A flint mesolithic waste core that I picked up while mushroom hunting:  It would have been used to manufacture microblades - used maybe on hunting projectile points between 8,000 and 4,000 BC.  Maybe the person who made it and dropped it here also gathered mushrooms here?

So what have I carried away from the Paleo idea?

  • I eat lots of plants - especially greens, berries, and nuts.  I eat at least 5 portions per day
  • I eat a wide variety of animal proteins including seafood, wild meats, and offal
  • I eat some wild foods when available (seafish, shellfish, samphire, nettles, mushrooms, berries, rabbit, deer, game birds)
  • I eat less potato, but I do not exclude it.
  • I enjoy my exercise choice - cross country running (and cycling) with dogs AND strength training at home.
  • Whole real foods before processed foods.  Foods that my great grandparents would have recognised as food.  Food that rots naturally.

What do I not agree with in the Paleo mainstream?  One word - exclusion.  I don't utterly exclude grains, dairy, peanuts etc.

So thats my choice.  Breakfast is very important to me.  A good breakfast.  Once maybe twice per week I like a farmer's breakfast - organic large flake rolled oats porridge - I even add whey protein to it.  Delicious.

Besides my choices there are my failures.  I like alcohol and chocolate.  People keep offering me cakes, sweets, biscuits etc.  Its hard to turn them down, and sometimes I don't!  Oh, I have developed this terrible desire for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.  Really awful.

Exercise:  Yes we completed that walk.  Since then we have also run several canicross races.  However a month ago I injured my right ankle, and I daren't run again yet.  Soon maybe.  On the strength training, again, I've had a few stalls and lost interest for a few short periods - I'm in one now - but I plan on a new campaign starting later this week.

Foraging - I started learning how to collect wild mushrooms.  So far I have tried parasols, blewitts, deceivers, bolettes, and puffballs.

Latest good news:  My local Tescos store are selling packs of game meat this season - venison, pheasant, ands partridge. :)  Lots of wild meat stir fries (are they excluded?).

Introductions / Re: Haano's here!
« on: December 14, 2008, 01:11:18 PM »
Hi Haano - good to see more UK members!

Introductions / Re: I'm jumping on the bandwagon!
« on: December 14, 2008, 01:10:30 PM »
Welcome aboard Zanjabil!

Introductions / Re: Michelle's Intro
« on: December 14, 2008, 01:09:35 PM »
Welcome Michelle!

Good to see weight trainers on board - look forward to the posts.

Introductions / Re: Hey
« on: December 14, 2008, 01:07:46 PM »

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