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I would like to continue a little of Andrenio's post - I participate in a sport with a heavy emphasis on anaerobic threshold training.  As such, I engage in hi intensity sprint endurance training 3-4 times/week, on top of light strength training.  I have tried doing this during a tranisitional phase to paleo but could not keep up my energy.  I got tired, and my performance deteriorated.  I find myself reverting to carbs in a grain or sports drink form after these workouts. 

My question would be, although he condones this to some extent, it seemed to be towards more aerobically based exercise.  Would he consider some form of grain or sports drink essential given the nature of the training?  At what time of day, if he does, would it be recommended, and conversely, if he doesn't, what can I do to go paleo but maintain performance?

Food Journals / Re: Eating Paleo at the Pub
« on: May 20, 2008, 05:39:35 AM »
Breakfast:  gluten free lean canadian bacon wrapped in romaine lettuce, apple, kiwi fruit

snack - almonds, banana
lunch - steamed broccolli, carrots, peppers with a little garlic salt and pepper, lean turkey breast grilled in olive oil and peppers.  Carrots.

snack - apple

dinner - pork, spinach/tomato/pepper salad. Strawberries/frozen berries for dessert.

water all day as usual.

Food Journals / Re: Eating Paleo at the Pub
« on: May 19, 2008, 04:52:01 AM »
Well, I have no excuses or difficulty in describing the weekend as a success in terms of play (my team was runner up in our division and played well except for the last game and I got starting squad on all 3) but not so much in terms of diet. 

I won't list meal by meal but I did manage to control my beer to a few per night, avoid hard liquor and substitute steamed veggies for legumes, and limit fries/grains to a bagel for breakfast and the bread used on burgers for dinners with smaller sides of fries.  I ate plenty of apples and bananas inbetween games and even some almonds.  Did indulge in pizza however. 

But still, it was a bad weekend crowned off by getting home late sunday and just eating more junk and being too lazy to get to the store.  That will be happening tonight, and I'll just have to make do with a little oatmeal, steamed veggies and tuna, and some apples today.  My system can't take any more greased junk and I need to get back on the horse with some good, clean lean meat, fruits, nuts and vegetables to help me recover from this weekend and get back into shape for both weddings in 2 months (I'm walking my mother down the aisle in one and am a groomsmen in the other) and the softball/rugby fall season. 

Sounds like others are doing good and cheers to that. 

Progress Reports & Photos / Weight loss already!
« on: May 16, 2008, 05:52:36 AM »
Brief background - before finding out about this WOE, I had started the gym in February for the spring season.  I also tried to alter my eating habits accordingly.  I used 2x total body workouts with weights per week, using olympic, compound and untilateral explosive dumbbell training.

I also did interval cardio for 1/2 an hour 3-4 times a week.  I started tipping the scales at 320 pounds or so.  That month and a half, I lost pounds to around 305.   Then I plateaued with the start of practice, etc.  I've been at this plateau for a long time. 

Starting this way of life this week has already seen improvements.  The first 2 days on it I was not that full of energy, but the fourth day in I had more energy at practice than I have had in a long time.  I have more energy in the morning and am overall more focused.  Although I'm still eating limited amounts of grains, I cut out dairy and upped my fruit/veggies/fish dramatically. 

The biggest surprise came this morning, however - my weight was at 291.4 #'s.  I fluctuate a lot due to water loss, etc., from workouts but I haven't seen that number in a very long time.  It could also be a little muscle loss because I have not weight trained in about 3+ weeks, but it wouldn't be that drastic because practice includes a lot of burpees (look on = torture), pushups, sprints, body squats, situps, player lifting for line outs, scrums, power jumping, pushing, etc. Basically a total body workout. 

So, sorry for a ramble again but it's just more proof that this was the way we were meant to eat. 

Progress Reports & Photos / Re: It Works!
« on: May 16, 2008, 05:39:24 AM »
My body does as well - for some reason, I bulk up very fast in response to weight training.  I've lost a lot of muscle because I just can't pound the weights while I'm getting knocked around in games/practice 4 times a week, but this weekend I'm hitting the gym again now that the season is over til fall.

Post some photos and good luck - given the high protein content of the diet, you should pack on some serious muscle from getting all those amino acids needed!

Food Journals / Re: Eating Paleo at the Pub
« on: May 16, 2008, 04:58:25 AM »
Dinner last night amendment - due to being exhausted - i just cooked up a lean gluten free ham steak on toast with a monstrous pile of spinach, a little mustard and steamed veggies.  I drank way too much free iced coffee yesterday - all black though!


Breakfast - 3 omega enriched eggs with peppers, black coffee, 2 wg slices of toast plain, Strawberries and an apple. 

Snack - apple, handful of almonds.

Lunch - I might cave here, we had no food in the house and I was at work, practice til 9, doing laundry for the tournament this weekend til 1.  So, I didn't get to cook my lean turkey breast.  I have large spinach salad with tomato and carrots, a small amount of olive oil/balsamic vinegar dressing, and tuna in water to throw on top.  I might pick up half a subway chicken sandwich as well. 

Snack - probably another apple

Dinner - who knows?  I'll be at the hotel for a big rugby tournament this weekend so I will try and be as good as possible but will not be very paleo oriented!  It's hard in that situation with the social pressure. 

Diet and nutrition / Re: what do you like to drink?
« on: May 15, 2008, 11:39:47 AM »
I'm trying to ween myself off the diet soda, and I don't think I could ever give up the iced coffee from Dunk's addiction both inherited and learned from the parents - Growing up in Mass. where there's a DD every half mile doesn't help either.  Other than that, I drink well over a gallon of water a day, mix in some herbal teas on the weekend. 

The real culprit though is the booze.  Rugby teams don't generally put much stock in herbal tea socials after games.  I am, however, trying to limit myself to just 1 or 2 beers after games on the weekend.  Sometimes and I plead the fifth, take 5 or 6 more onto to that if a friend is DD and driving!

Food Journals / Re: Eating Paleo at the Pub
« on: May 15, 2008, 06:42:18 AM »
Yeah add on a kiwi fruit with that lunch. 

Any feedback as to the balance of this thus far?  I'll be doing fish 3-4 times a week, lots of chicken, lean beef and turkey. 

Food Journals / Re: Eating Paleo at the Pub
« on: May 15, 2008, 06:40:22 AM »
So, pulled a 180 last night and decided to grill because it's going to be cloudy and rain the next few days.  I made sirloin tips with peppers, onion, cherry tomatoes and mushrooms in a light olive oil marinade.

Unfortunately, I put them in a wrap and ate that along with a few chips.  Held off the dairy though, and had diet soda instead for dessert, which, although transitional, is better than dairy I guess but still not good.  A positive would be that I didn't nearly the grain quantity I would have before.  So, it's getting less but not there yet. 


Breakfast - black iced coffee, bowl sliced of fruit containing 1 banana, large apple, strawberries. 

Snack - oatmeal (open grain meal), handful of almonds. 

Lunch - chicken breast, steamed veggies w/olive oil, bag of organic baby carriots

Snack - another apple

Dinner - grilled turkey breast, spinach salad with tomatoes, peppers and a small amount of vinagrette that had been planned for last night, diet soda, apple. 

Water all day long of course.  I usually drink upwards of a gallon on practice days. 

Food Journals / Re: Eating Paleo at the Pub
« on: May 14, 2008, 09:18:10 AM »
oh yeah eating a cup of carrots at lunch every day too...

Food Journals / Eating Paleo at the Pub
« on: May 14, 2008, 05:18:52 AM »
So this week I'm trying to phase out grains in preparation for level 1 entry into a new lifestyle next week.  I "started" Tuesday. 

I'm doing some form of grains in a meal because even though they have been harming my body, it's what it's used to in a sense, and with a big tournament this weekend, I don't want to change my patterns to drastically. 


Breakfast - apple, banana, strawberries, kiwi and water, coffee at work. 

Snacks - small amount of almonds, smoked salmon, banana

Lunch - sauteed mushrooms, lean pork with olive oil/garlic, steamed broccoli, banana

Dinner -  broiled skinless chicken breast in olive oil, with pepper/garlic.  Steamed broccoli.  Sadly, I couldn't let a small amount of leftover stovetop go to wasted so I ate 1/2 cup of that probably.   


Breakfast: 2 slices wg toast plain, 3 scrambled omega 3 enriched eggs (no milk added), strawberries and water.  Unfortunately, a small leftover brownie as well.

Snack: apple/small handful of almonds

Lunch - chicken leftovers from tues, steamed broccolli, banana. 

Snack - tuna in water, another apple. 

Dinner - planning on more broiled chicken, and a large spinach salad with tomato, green peppers, onion and a small amount of balsamic vinegar.  Another banana. 

Introductions / Re: Hoping to free myself
« on: May 13, 2008, 08:41:14 AM »
I've read the book and its a real eye-opener, that's for sure.  The only thing I think will be hard will be some of the meals - I'm not that culinary inclined and with a second job coming on, I won't have the time to make some of the more intricate dishes. 

Luckily I love the taste of raw natural foods, however, so I guess I can do the dried fish, fruits, veggies, nuts and broiled lean meats and just prepare as much as I can on Sundays!

I'm starting to really phase out grains this week..the only one today was a small bowl of oatmeal.  Hoping to start lvl. 1 this week too. 

Introductions / Re: Hoping to free myself
« on: May 07, 2008, 09:01:17 AM »
As a side note, my weight has dropped 2 #'s since getting off pasta/peanut butter and limiting grains, but this could be due to the fact that I don't weight train much during the actual rugby season and maybe losing some muscle. 

Introductions / Re: Hoping to free myself
« on: May 07, 2008, 08:58:20 AM »
"The Paleo Diet" has finally arrived, and I'm almost finished with it and am even more eager to get into.  I have a big tournament in 2 weeks, then the Spring season here is over, so I'm hoping to jump into this WOE then cold turkey.  I've been increasing fruit/veggie intake even more and trying to limit my grains to 2 meals a day.  Was just wondering as to your thoughts on today's meals as a gradual phase into paleo:

Breakfast - small amount of WG cereal with a PILE of fresh strawberry/banana.  Little Skim milk.

snack - apple and handful of whole almonds

Lunch - organic carrots and a turkey sandwich with spinach small amount of cheese on WG bread, small amount of fresh pineapple

snack - steamed veggies/chunk light tuna in water.

dinner - steamed broccoli, baked chicken breast w/olive oil and garlic, pepper. 

I think the biggest part will be getting ride of the occassional beer and, of course, bread.  I've phased off of pasta, but I think the nice heaping Turkey sandwiches for lunch will be the hardest thing to phase out in lieu of plain lean meats!

Introductions / Re: Dog Runner
« on: April 30, 2008, 04:47:18 AM »
Never heard of Canicross, but it sounds like good fun.  I imagine endurance running with dogs would fit quite well into the framework of the original Paleo lifestyle!  I'm looking forward to the day when I can afford a place that allows dogs - miss my border collie!

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