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The thing is I was wondering if it was all too good to be true. I am not finding it difficult eating like this. I have come home diet wise - I am a natural carnivore.  A plate of meat and nothing else does not seem 'bad' to me, but people around me find it weird.

Yes, that was one of the adjustments I had to make.  It can't be healthy unless you're giving something up, right?  When I realized I was eating better on paleo than I ever had before, I had to give up that idea.

It really does make sense, though.  From an evolutionary standpoint, it only stands to reason that we would have evolved to enjoy a diet that was healthy for us.  Not everything enjoyable is healthy, but things that are truly healthy should be enjoyable.

Diet and nutrition / Re: I'm may give up on Ketosis....
« on: February 03, 2010, 08:22:20 AM »
Ketosis feels great except for the first time, it seems.  You've probably gone into ketosis before, and your body just handled the transition seamlessly.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Alcohol versus Food Addiction
« on: February 03, 2010, 08:18:24 AM »
yes this is what I meant...sorry should read sugar and sugar like substances or things that breakdown into sugar in your body....all of them weather is a piece of candy or a cracker....they all have sugar.

We're agreed as to what the issue is, then.  I think a better way of putting it is that "carbohydrates" are bad, rather than saying "sugar" - the latter leads to the misconception that bread is better than candy bars, which is not true.  "Carbohydrates" is more accurate as all carbohydrates break down into simple sugars before absorption into the blood stream.

True people wouldn't pour straight salt onto their tongues...but neither would they with sugar.

When people eat hard candy, they are putting straight sugar on their tongues.

Perhaps more significantly, a lot of people pour a lot of pretty straight sugar water into their gullets in the form of soft drinks.  The noncaffeinated drinks have almost nothing but sugar and water in them.

I realize this diet is about eliminating those things...but lots of us (me included) have a hard time eliminating sweet and salt completely!  Honey, fruit, carrots, etc all give you that sweet hit.  I realized now that I can't just have a bit of honey each day...I have to give it up totally or I just keep craving it more and more and wanting to treat myself more and more because I am working so hard to eat this way for myself..blah blah blah.

Why do you feel you have to work hard to eat paleo?  It really should be easy - if done right it tastes so much better than an agricultural diet.  What things do you consider to be 'work'?

Introductions / Re: Hi there! One week Paleo Down!
« on: February 03, 2010, 07:41:05 AM »
Welcome!  Food log looks good so far.

I second the suggestion for learning to stir fry vegetables.  Different vegetables need to cook for different lengths of time; for example, with bok choy, you sautee the stems for a minute or two before adding the leaves and stock and letting it steam for three minutes.  I use a Chinese cookbook to get the specifics for different vegetables.

Introductions / Re: Hello All, I Might Need A Little Help
« on: February 03, 2010, 07:32:00 AM »

So will this diet help me lose weight and gain muscle?

If you are overweight, yes it will.  You will need strictly to avoid any grains, legumes, and dairy, as well as candy bars and other packaged junk food.  Meat, eggs, vegetables, and fruit are fine, including fatty meat.  You'll need the fat to avoid excessive hunger.

To gain muscle, you'll need some resistance exercise too.

Good luck!

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: February 03, 2010, 07:27:56 AM »
Sounds like a good diet for you!

Introductions / Re: Hi!
« on: February 02, 2010, 07:39:27 AM »
I know I need to eat more fats but I am too tired to think about what to eat so I just fix a chicken breast. I am also barely eating any vegetables.

A fatty hamburger or steak has to be as easy as a chicken breast.

You could also eat some fruit.

Good luck!

Food Journals / Re: Ace's Journal
« on: February 01, 2010, 03:38:22 PM »
I suggest you go cold turkey on the peanut butter.

I also think it would be worthwhile to differentiate better between paleo vegetables and nonpaleo vegetables.  For example, of the "chinese" vegetables in the package you mention, mushrooms are paleo, pea pods and corn are not, and water chestnuts are perhaps in a grey area.  Once you've got the lines clear in your mind, it may help to be able to have the paleo vegetables guilt free.

Have as much bacon as you like for now.  Eventually you may want to track down uncured bacon or even uncured unsalted pork belly, but for now, just remember that even regular bacon is a lot better than peanut butter, from a paleo standpoint.

Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: February 01, 2010, 03:23:02 PM »

It has not been difficult for me, since I wasn't addicted to sweets, and I already had a feeling grains (pasta, bread especially) were the cause of my tiredness.

Hopefully dropping legumes (beans, peanuts) and dairy is just as easy for you.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Alcohol versus Food Addiction
« on: February 01, 2010, 03:09:45 PM »
edit: @ Sassenach, this diet is an abstention from salt and sugar. Those are the addictive substances.

I think that's a misconception.  Bread, pasta, beans, milk - all are just as bad as sugar, and bread and milk certainly seem to be just as addictive.  Thinking that sugar is somehow worse is a huge mistake.

Salt is not addictive, except in the limited amounts needed for life.  Few people crave salt and pour it out of the salt shaker onto their tongues.  There are no withdrawal symptoms when you cut down on salt.  The only real problem with salt is that it allows one to overeat other foods prepared with it.

Miscellaneous / Re: How much do you spend on food?
« on: February 01, 2010, 02:00:22 PM »
I spend about $800 a month, but that's for three people including somewhat expensive specialty items for infants.

Maybe modify the question to be on a per person basis?

Miscellaneous / Re: Healthy Woman Shocked by Heart Attack, Twice
« on: February 01, 2010, 10:34:22 AM »
Lots of "healthy" whole grains, no doubt.

The exercise might have helped her avoid dying from the heart attacks, though.

Food Journals / Re: babes 1st day so far
« on: February 01, 2010, 10:27:55 AM »
thank you warren, i just worry that i am not doing something right even tho i have lost 10lbs since monday :), but still feel like there are foods i am eating which i shouldn't be. i don't understand the grass fed meat thing. but i am sure i will get it eventually

The one thing I've noticed is that you're doing a much better job than most newcomers to the diet at avoiding the big three:  grains, dairy, and legumes.  A lot of people seem to have a hard time adjusting to the idea that those three are unhealthy rather than healthy.

If you wanted to refine your diet further, you might try to phase sausage out in favor of other meat, since sausage usually contains some nonpaleo ingredients, and perhaps see if you can find uncured bacon, since the nitrates used to cure bacon are an industrial age invention.  Those are more in the way of refinements rather than basic issues, though.

The issue with grass fed beef is this:  a lot of modern beef is fed for most of its life on corn in the feedlot, rather than on the grass that cows are adapted to.  This results in a worse ratio of omega 3 fats and omega 6 fats than in grass fed beef.  We're adapted to a ratio in the range of 1:1 to 1:2; grass fed beef is around 1:2 while feedlot beef is 1:4 or higher.

The reason this ratio is important is because these fats affect brain function.  For example, better omega 3:6 ratios has been found to help against various forms of depression.

By contrast with the beef, though, vegetable oil is much worse - corn oil is 1:30, and even olive oil is 1:7.  So again, going to grass fed beef is more in the way of a refinement than a basic issue.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Ground beef fat content
« on: February 01, 2010, 10:11:09 AM »
I honestly have no idea how to make paleo meat loaf.  The meat loaf recipes I know of all contain bread.

For browning ground beef for recipes, I have found that higher fat up to 70/30 makes it better tasting, though you may need either to drain off some of the fat, or use enough onions and mushrooms in the recipe to absorb it.

Exercises / Re: What are the benefits of regular anaerobic exercise?
« on: February 01, 2010, 08:56:50 AM »
The reason I ask this is because as I've gotten older, I don't feel as energetic as I used to, and seeing as I rarely exercise this doesn't seem to be too surprising. The Paleo diet has definitely helped a lot in combating fatigue, so I'm hoping that regular exercise will really give me that extra boost!

A tangent, but it's always scary to me to see someone talk about the bad effects of "getting older" at 17!

Then again, I've concluded that even at 49, "getting older" is mostly the result of bad diet and lifestyle more than just age.

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