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Diet and nutrition / Re: orange juice (carton)
« on: January 26, 2010, 01:33:51 PM »
I did know that what we eat currently as bananas are not anything like wild bananas which are basically inedible, so they are not Paleo in that respect.

Wild bananas have big seeds, but they don't appear to be inedible if you aren't too picky.  Someone posted once that they had a wild tree in their yard and they were fine when you got them at proper ripeness, aside from spitting out all the seeds.

Seedless grapes and navel oranges are also cloned from shoots, as they also lack working seeds.  They don't seem much different from the varieties with seeds in other respects.

The paleo diet is about finding close modern equivalents to paleolithic foods, not refraining from meat because aurochs are extinct.  I think if one is going to make an argument not to eat fruit, it would be better based on archeological data indicating that paleolithic humans ate mostly or all meat, but that data isn't comprehensive yet.

Diet and nutrition / Re: orange juice (carton)
« on: January 26, 2010, 11:20:46 AM »
but there about the only fruit i eat. are apples, bananas and pears not paleo?

They are paleo.

Modern fruit are generally bigger than paleolithic equivalents.  Paleolithic fruit would probably have been more like crabapples and kumquats.  Just as some purists stick to grass fed beef, some people stick to fruit that have changed less from the paleolithic, like perhaps organic fruit or berries.

Some people on paleo don't eat fruit at all, not because they aren't paleo, but because they find they do better with very little carbohydrate.

Food Journals / Re: babes 1st day so far
« on: January 26, 2010, 09:28:55 AM »
For dinner tonight i am doing mince and onion boiled in water with herbs and veg. yummy and it smells so nice. just not sure what to thicken it up with yet  :(

Depending on how you feel about nightshades, you could use a little tomato paste.  Cooked winter squash or pureed carrot might work too, though I haven't tried those.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Collard Greens
« on: January 26, 2010, 08:47:02 AM »
I like collard greens, and they are one of my 19 month old daughter's favorite foods.

She pretty much likes anything with pork fat in it.

Diet and nutrition / Re: thicken agents
« on: January 26, 2010, 08:45:15 AM »
If there's a good answer to this, I wouldn't mind knowing too.

Right now I just dip the juices out and have the gravy "au jus" instead of with gravy.  With soups, I'm okay with clear soups.

Diet and nutrition / Re: orange juice (carton)
« on: January 26, 2010, 08:42:43 AM »
yeah i do that, i was thinking for when i was in town there is a really nice juice bar in town called frootz basically they blend all the fruit together and then give you it for a drink, was wondering if i could have the orange juice from there too and while i am at it is the blended up fruits ok? i watch them make it and it is just blended fruits :)
Do they leave all the solids in there?  That might not be as bad.

Miscellaneous / Re: Is Free The Animal wrong?
« on: January 26, 2010, 08:40:54 AM »
Think about it... you're not considering a potatoe a cheat meal :d   a lot better than pizza and beer... lol.

Personally I would definitely consider potatoes to be a cheat meal.  It's pretty much pure carbohydrate, like a candy bar or a slice of pizza without the healthy toppings.

Diet and nutrition / Re: orange juice (carton)
« on: January 26, 2010, 07:59:53 AM »
I'm one of those who considers juice to be nonpaleo.  I think the sugar in juice is absorbed much more quickly, since it has none of the soluble fiber in whole fruit, and the immunosuppressive effects of the sugar on the throat may be worse for the same reason.  I have a hard time imagining cave men juicing fruit when they could just eat the whole fruit.

Juice is a pretty easy temptation to beat; just keep fruit around the house instead of juice.

Diet and nutrition / Re: I had a change today then worried about it.
« on: January 26, 2010, 07:51:49 AM »
Honey in small amounts is paleo but will cause an insulin spike.  A tablespoon is a lot; if my blood sugar is low I sometimes put some in tea, but it's more like a quarter teaspoon.

Coffee is not really paleo but the only known downside is caffeine addiction, which probably won't cause a problem with the other parts of your diet.

Introductions / Re: Greetings!
« on: January 26, 2010, 07:45:07 AM »

I've been going at the Paleo diet around 99%, meaning that my one cheat has been brown rice with my sushi (which I have not partaken in much since I started).

That's a start.  If you're a chef, do you make your own sushi?  Some people substitute chopped up broccoli [edit:  meant cauliflower, not that it makes a difference] for rice; I don't know if that would work in sushi.  Or you could switch to sashimi.

Food Journals / Re: babes 1st day so far
« on: January 25, 2010, 11:31:10 AM »
Today i have eaten, a fruit salad for breakfast (banana, apple and orange),
a dry fried stir fry (carrots, onions, and mushrooms with a boiled egg) for lunch.
For my evening meal i am having sausages, with carrots, mushrooms, onions and other vegs.

That sounds pretty good.

If you want to be strict, you could switch the sausages out for other meat, since sausages usually have some nonpaleo ingredients.

Miscellaneous / Re: Help with lowering LDL for insurance
« on: January 24, 2010, 07:56:46 AM »
Just to close the loop on this one, the insurance company approved me at their best rate.  Granted that's more than twice as much for me at 49 than the not quite most favored rate they gave my wife at 39, so I'm sure they're still making money.

It took a while because they ordered a ton of extra blood tests.  Some I know what they are, though not necessarily their significance, like creatinine, total protein, albumin, etc.; others I have no clue, like BUN, eGFR, AST(SGOT), and GGT(GGTP).  They're all in the normal range.

Interestingly, they test for nicotine, so I guess they don't just take your word on being a nonsmoker.

Bottom line, though:  I don't think I should have bothered with the few days of nonpaleo diet for the blood test, as it doesn't appear to have helped.

Research / Re: Trans-fats show up in human breast milk!
« on: January 23, 2010, 12:31:13 PM »
With respect to the breast milk, a big part of why we went paleo had to do with findings like that.  We really wanted our daughter to be getting the best possible breast milk, and we did that by switching my wife to paleo.

Research / Re: Trans-fats show up in human breast milk!
« on: January 23, 2010, 12:27:37 PM »
So trans fast not only made me fat, but also stupid?

On the plus side, maybe paleo is making you smarter!

Research / Re: "What Will Become of Homo Sapiens" article
« on: January 23, 2010, 12:24:56 PM »
Harpending and Hawks tend to present their findings in a way that exaggerates their importance.

For example, that "7 percent of human genes underwent evolution" sounds like a lot - until you realize that "underwent evolution" just means that the percentage of humans with them changed, not that the genes themselves actually changed.

For example, the adult lactase gene is maybe a couple of percent more common now than 5,000 years ago, though most of the world's population still doesn't have it.  That counts as a gene that "underwent evolution" from their perspective.

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