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Introductions / Re: Hello....
« on: January 27, 2010, 05:21:35 PM »
Sounds like you did well today.

As Il Capo said, wine's not paleo, chicken stock is barring nonpaleo ingredients, and carrots are.  I consider tomatoes to be paleo but I don't eat them; some consider them and other members of the nightshade family not to be strictly paleo because they are new world plants with which we didn't coevolve during the paleolithic.

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Miscellaneous / Are paleo kids better behaved?
« on: January 27, 2010, 02:45:41 PM »
Our daughter Margaret isn't strictly paleo at the moment - long story - but we're trying to keep her as close as possible.  We're feeding her paleo solids, and while we give her dairy, we try to get that part of her diet as close to human breast milk as possible by combining the right ratios of milk, cream, and dairy based formula.  She's a long way from standard American toddler fare, as we don't give her starchy or grain based baby foods; her macronutrient balance is pretty close to paleo.

We visited some of her friends for a play date this past weekend, arriving immediately after lunch.  The other kids were kind of hyperactive and noisy for the first few hours, to the point where their parents had to tell them to calm down quite a few times.  I don't think this was just because Margaret was there, as the novelty probably wore off after the first half hour or so.  It did seem pretty normal for modern American kids, except that Margaret was such a contrast, happily playing in a quiet way.

Has anyone else noticed anything like this?  It was as if the other kids were burning off the starchy neolithic portions of their lunch for the first few hours.  Is the way to have a child that's "seen but not heard" to feed them a paleo diet?

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Introductions / Re: Nice cave! Mind if I join you??
« on: January 27, 2010, 02:27:28 PM »
Corey, question for you.  What was your fat intake over the last six months?  Did you stick with very lean meat?

The reason I ask is this.  Many of us who are just maintaining a healthy weight on paleo - or who are trying to gain muscle weight - find that we need fatty meats to get enough calories and avoid hunger.  As a result, we tend to tell newcomers to paleo to eat more fat.

However, I'm wondering if that's the best advice for someone who is significantly overweight and needs to lose weight.  I'm thinking that it may be possible that people who are significantly overweight will do better sticking to lean meat and using their own reserves of fat instead, at least until they reach their healthy weight.

I'm hoping your experience can shed some light on this topic.

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Diet and nutrition / Re: Vitamin D
« on: January 27, 2010, 02:16:10 PM »
Some info on cod liver oil and vitamins A and D:

http://li14-183.members.linode.com/basicnutrition/clarifications.html

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Diet and nutrition / Re: good eating habits
« on: January 27, 2010, 02:06:54 PM »
nuts
seeds
fruits (carbs)
veggies (carbs)
meat (steak,shrimp,salmon,chicken) (protein)
eggs

These are good, with the emphasis on the last four.

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fats: avocado, nuts, green beans, spinach, olive oil

Green beans are legumes and not paleo.  Olive oil is also nonpaleo, though it's not as bad as most vegetable oils.  Probably the best fat is unhydrogenated pastured lard if you can find it.

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stay away:
proccesed foods
sodas
sweeteners
bread
pasta
grains in general

Also stay way from:
legumes - all beans and peas including peanuts in all forms
dairy - all milk and milk products

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Progress Reports & Photos / exercise and weightloss
« on: January 27, 2010, 01:24:35 PM »
Must be something to do with January.

I suspect so.  Perhaps over the winter months we deplete our internal reserves of sunshine from the previous summer.  Unfortunately in the modern world it's difficult to just stay in our caves and eat frozen mammoth until spring.

I hope wlfdg is going to be okay.  His lifestyle was probably the closest to paleolithic of anyone here.

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Research / Re: Paleolithic Europeans
« on: January 27, 2010, 12:03:45 PM »
Isn't it interesting? I was especially compelled by it too!

I almost said "compelling" but then I realized there's still a strong alternative theory as well.  The alternative is that something changed in human psychology during the last ice age that caused us to prefer intensification and, ultimately, agriculture over a stable ecological niche as hunters.

The theory that it is purely a climatic change fails to explain why humans displaced neanderthals during this latest interglacial when that didn't happen during any of the previous interglacials.

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Food Journals / Re: DTSMA68's Food Journal
« on: January 27, 2010, 11:53:44 AM »
Just be aware that diet soda is definitely nonpaleo.  Among other concerns, artificial sweeteners can cause insulin spikes even if they don't have any calories.

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Diet and nutrition / Re: Vitamin D
« on: January 27, 2010, 09:33:35 AM »
I've taken to having a teaspoon of vitamin D on days when I get no sun.  Basically that means days when I do the commute with the convertible top up.

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Miscellaneous / Re: Kidney?
« on: January 27, 2010, 07:29:05 AM »
So, is there anyone that knows, or has any information on this?  I guess she could do a limited protein and focus on veggies and fruit with less meat, but then she might be hungry.

She could probably avoid hunger by having enough fat.

Also it sounds like she has at least one good kidney, so I would think she'd be able to handle half the normal limit for protein.  1g protein per kg lean body mass per day might be well within her limits, even if 2g is not.

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Progress Reports & Photos / exercise and weightloss
« on: January 26, 2010, 09:45:18 PM »
In my opinion this part is not correct. If you eat paleo but sit in a chair all day and do not do any sort of exercise, do you think that is not going to have a deleterious effect on your health?

I don't think it will have much of a deleterious effect, if any.

Two years ago I was on a standard American diet and mostly sedentary, and I had a host of chronic discomforts.  Now I am on a paleo diet and still mostly sedentary, and those discomforts have gone away.  And frankly, I would bet that if I'd stayed on my old diet and started getting lots of exercise, some of them would still be with me.

Now, would I be even more healthy if I managed to lead a more active life style?  I'm sure I would - but the additional benefit would be in terms of physical fitness, not the absence of chronic ills that I already no longer have.

Heck, I'll even give you a specific example.  I used to have problems with hemorrhoids that flared up every few weeks.  Ten years ago, I went through a few years when I got a lot of exercise and was in very good condition, but it didn't change the situation with the hemorrhoids.  On the paleo diet, the hemorrhoids went away and haven't come back.

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Progress Reports & Photos / exercise and weightloss
« on: January 26, 2010, 08:03:23 PM »
There is more to health than weight loss. If you eat Paleo but have a completely sedentary lifestyle, you will not be a healthy person. Skinny maybe, healthy no.

I'd put it slightly differently.  I'd say the following:

Carbs make one fat.  Skipping the carbs make one thin.  That's probably true whether the rest of one's diet is paleo or not.  However, being thin alone does not make one healthy.

Exercise makes one healthier in the sense of more physically fit.  However, it's more likely to replace fat with muscle than just make one thin.

Eating paleo will make one healthier in the sense of being free of chronic discomforts and disease.  It also enforces skipping some of the carbs and makes some of the exercise easier.  Those trying to maximize weight loss will still need to cut carbs further, though, and those trying to maximize physical fitness will still need exercise.

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Introductions / Re: Nice cave! Mind if I join you??
« on: January 26, 2010, 07:28:29 PM »
Great story, Corey!  Welcome to the cave.

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Diet and nutrition / Re: orange juice (carton)
« on: January 26, 2010, 07:24:12 PM »
I always found weight loss stalled when I ate fruit--too much sugar rather than non-Paleo.

Agreed.  I think it's possible to lose some weight eating fruit instead of grains, but if you want to maximize weight loss, skip the fruit, even if it is paleo.

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Diet and nutrition / Re: Q-Do you drink the juices the meat is cooked in?
« on: January 26, 2010, 07:22:00 PM »
If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

Agreed.  Sometimes people new to the diet have some things that they think are minor cheats that aren't, or some things that they don't realize aren't paleo.

I'd also note, though, that after the first week or two, the weight loss will slow down.  A couple pounds a week is what you can expect for the long run.

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