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Offline Il Capo

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TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« on: October 05, 2009, 11:28:24 PM »
I have to confess that I used to have a little bit of "man boobs" going on before going paleo. This was especially annoying given that I was not grossly overweight (just 5 lbs from the upper range of a "normal" BMI). I thought it was hormones, but wasn't eating any soy products (huge estrogen source), so could not pin it down. To give you a rough idea of my man boobs before, check the simon cowell pic in the link (or don't, if you are easily impressed)

http://news.makemeheal.com/images/simon-cowell-man-boobs.jpg

I'm glad to report that my man boobs are decreasing in size. I can't control for paleo diet only because I started martial arts training shortly before going paleo, but I think the paleo diet may have contributed.

Since my "bad man boobs" days I've lost about 8-10 lbs (depending on when I weigh), but I assume this is mostly water as I'm only 10 days into the diet. Would anything else be at play such as hormones or other products in non paleo foods? Or is it just the weight loss? Anyone experience this?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 04:21:02 AM »
That's great, Il Capo! Love the Simon Cowell pic! :D

There are other foods that can cause hormonal issues, I wonder if maybe your theory is right about that. I am extremely sensitive to them. Some of the really big culprits I've found, besides soy:
-flax
-hemp
-sesame seeds to a smaller degree (they do not bother me)
-some spices: rosemary, fennel, & lavender, for example

Here's a table showing the phytoestrogen content in some foods:

http://www.dietaryfiberfood.com/phytoestrogen.php

Here's a listing of foods high in them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens
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A more comprehensive list of foods known to contain phytoestrogens includes: soy beans, tofu, tempeh, soy beverages, linseed (flax), sesame seeds, wheat, berries, oats, barley, dried beans, lentils, yams, rice, alfalfa, mung beans, apples, carrots, pomegranates,[14] wheat germ, ricebran, soy linseed bread, ginseng, bourbon and beer[15] fennel and anise.[16]

« Last Edit: October 06, 2009, 04:24:59 AM by marika »

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 05:44:16 AM »
Interesting if eating paleo is making a difference, I sure wouldn’t doubt it cuz it makes such a difference with so many things.  I know of a guy who had man boobs and no matter how much he exercised or how thin he was, he still had them.  He ate a low fat SAD though, never paleo.  He ended up opting for surgery which he found out was more common than one would have guessed.  So if a paleo diet is helping, that’s awesome.  Congrats on the weight lose too!     

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 06:35:59 AM »
I can definitely attest to the estrogenic effects of pomegranate!  I love pomegranate, but it makes me retain water like nobody's business.  So does evening primrose oil, another food that is supposed to affect hormones, but I don't think they ever recommend guys supplement with evening primrose oil so you're probably safe from that one.  Actually so does spelt, but you shouldn't be eating spelt anyway on a paleo diet.  :)

Interesting that you posted the info about sesame seeds Marika!  I've had some water retention episodes lately that seemed kind of random but I was starting to think that sesame oil had something to do with it...looks like I may have been onto something, since I have a bad track record with other estrogenic food.
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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 08:29:09 AM »
Thanks for the list Marika. Out of the food containing estrogens, I only used to consume wholegrain bread in any meaningful way. Probably the weight loss / training is a bigger contributor than anything else.
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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 09:02:19 AM »
You need to develop your Pectoralis Major and Latissimus Dorsi muscles.

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 01:13:21 PM »
You need to develop your Pectoralis Major and Latissimus Dorsi muscles.

Pushups, right?
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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 02:07:25 PM »
Push ups, pull ups, parallel bar dips, barbell rows, bench press, deadlifts

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2009, 04:44:23 PM »
Since I've stopped eating all soy, hemp, and flax products, as well as all forms of grains and refined sugar, not only have my moobs (manboobs) gotten smaller and my chest more firm, but I am way more assertive - especially with women - but also a lot calmer. It's hard to explain. I feel like I could run through a wall, but I haven't put on that much more muscle.

I've also noticed women are looking at me a little differently than before, especially since I let my beard grow out.

And for the first time in my life my love handles have finally started to shrink.

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2009, 09:55:09 PM »
Hmmm... I hope paleo will make my boobs shrink too! Loosing weight will help for one, but I want to be able to run without them being so obnoxious! I don't suppose all you 110 pound girls can relate?

I am lucky I am not my sister though. She is more like a DDD. Haha. Poor thing.

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2009, 10:37:41 PM »
Hmmm... I hope paleo will make my boobs shrink too!

Probably will if you are slightly overweight / above ideal BF%. I had a GF several years back who was supper skinny and then put on about 15lbs in a short period of time*. Boob size increased and so did the size of her "behind". I'm sure it works both ways.

*she was anorexic and recovered.
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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2009, 11:51:26 PM »
We all hold weight differently. I wish I had a butt. Even at my weight now my tush is pretty flat and some pants are baggy in the butt. Oh well, I'd rather have a small butt than a huge one anyways.
When I was anorexic (100 lbs at 172cm) I was still B in the chest, which I was very happy with. If I can get down to a C I will be jumping up and down (literally)! I do not understand the male obsession with boobs at all (perhaps they indicated fertility?).

I guess I just wish I was a bit more proportioned, you know?

Sorry for the threadjack! And the rant. I am lucky compared to a lot of people but it is hard not to be picky.

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 05:52:19 AM »
KLC, You need to get yourself a splitboard or take up teleskiing. You'll balance out your butt.  ;) With muscle!  ;D Hit the weight room! Butt too heels squats with high reps for lots of hypertrophy.

Everybody loves boobs! They are wonderful! :D Well maybe except gay men?

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2009, 12:49:20 PM »
Hmmm.... I just can't fathom that a split board would be the same as my snowboard now. Next time have some money I want to invest in some climbing skis or a splitboard but I don't know which one. Maybe you can help me out. Is a splitboard actually a decent snowboard??

We will see if I can pack some muscle on my butt... it would be nice!
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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2009, 03:10:56 PM »
Since going mostly meat, my butt has shrunk too!!  I used have one...now it's gone!!!   :'(

I'm hoping now that I'm eating more carbs it might come back!!   :D

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Re: TMI alert: "Man boobs" getting smaller
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2009, 03:10:56 PM »