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Introductions / Obligatory Introduction Thread
« Last post by TriggerWarning on May 22, 2017, 09:57:13 AM »
Hello! :) My name is Charlie McGhee, a childfree housewife living in the Ozarks with my boyfriend/husband and our zoo of a family. We currently live in a trailer, what my mom prefers to call a "tinyhouse", towed behind a pickup truck for easy transportation. And we're parked near my mom's apartment because she put out her eye with her thumbnail last month.

Ever since I was a small child, I've had a passion for theology, psychology, geology, ecology, biology, and anthropology. I'd run away into the woods with a college textbook while the other little kids were playing all loudly. Over the past decade or so, I've studied anatomy, biochemistry, ethnobotany, herbalism, nutrition, and physiology as both dear hobbies and important life skills. True health is a body-mind-spirit lifestyle.

I don't follow the "paleo diet" as most people think of it. Nor do I support either veganism or the Standard American Diet, for a variety of obvious reasons. At this moment, I'm conducting a long-term study into human phylogeny and ancestral ecosystems, with the intent to determine appropriate diet and medicine standards for each haplogroup and phenotype. Humans try way too hard to simplify every concept.

Sorry if I seem angry or bitter at times.  :-\ All the medical malpractice, mass extinction, environmental destruction, and animal abuse has made me very misanthropic. I'm not necessarily a Voluntary Human Extinctionist, but I certainly agree that humans need to tone down their breeding for a few decades. Or centuries. I'm sure the birds, bees, and trees would agree: we've sure "gone viral"!  ;D
Research / Re: Who lives longest: meat eaters or vegetarians?
« Last post by 2916132 on May 15, 2017, 01:18:02 PM »
My thoughts? Correlation is not causation.

This is the same bunk "science" that the media promotes to make us all think meat causes cancer, and vegans live longer lives simply because they don't eat meat. What these useless observational studies don't account for is that people who choose to live vegan have generally healthier lifestyles on a whole. In other words, they usually don't smoke, don't drink in excess, exercise, and live in environmentally cleaner habitats. So what part of their lifestyle actually contributes to their statistically longer lives? Nobody knows but to claim it's because they don't eat meat is superficial and irresponsible.

I read the study (, and in Table 1 the authors explain that they controlled for age, race, smoking, exercise, income, educational level, marital status, alcohol consumption, and region when looking at mortality. Not to say that I think that vegetarian diets are healthier than meat-eating ones, but they did control other variables. Honestly, I'd be surprised if the study didn't control for them. Although there are other problems with this study. The big one- the author of the study has been payed to speak at a Seven Day Adventists Health conference- they're pretty big promoters of vegetarianism. They didn't compare groups of equal number- they had a smaller number of vegans in the study than omnivores. It would have been a better study if they had equal numbers of people in each group. Also, on average they only tracked each person for 6 years, which isn't enough time to look at some of the long-term effects of different diets. They also found that specifically: nuts, fruits, fiber, and leafy greens were associated with longer life span- all of which are paleo friendly. They also found that high glycemic load foods are the most strongly associated with an increased risk of mortality- and generally speaking, vegans tend to eat a higher glycemic load diet. A 2007 study (outdated, I know, but I'm too busy with finals to spend all day reading studies) in Germany found that the average vegans' diet's GL was 144 ( The study also found that people who self-describe themselves as healthy eaters live longer (a no brainer).

In general, I think the best takeaway from this study is that increased consumption of low carbohydrate plant foods is good for health. Eating plenty of leafy greens, low carb veggies, fresh fruit (lower GL than dried fruit), and nuts is all associated with a longer lifespan, something than most paleo people do already (to my understanding). It really disappoints me after reading the study that they actually did a really interesting in-depth analysis of multiple eating patterns, but of course, news outlets see the word "vegetarian" and try to pretend that that's only what the study was about.

Anyways, after reading the abstract I'm going to go download the full PDF and spend my free time for the next week reading this.
Exercises / Re: Goblet squat
« Last post by Warren Dew on May 06, 2017, 09:42:44 PM »
Here's the first search result on Youtube:
Diet and nutrition / Re: Healthy Recipes
« Last post by Baumgartner on May 03, 2017, 10:28:33 PM »
Can anyone recommend a good book with lots of healthy paleo recipes?
Food Journals / Re: keeping it simple for keeps!
« Last post by iron sunshine on May 02, 2017, 05:20:15 PM »
May menu...
Eggs,Tuna, Salmon
Chicken, beef
Lettuce, apples, avocado
Bananas, melon, pineapple
Water, tea
Research / Re: Newly published Ancel Keys study
« Last post by JayJay on May 02, 2017, 03:35:05 PM »
Oh look, it's the "shred of evidence" that George McGovern didn't have the "luxury of time" to wait for. And it was there all the time. Criminals.
Introductions / Re: Intro
« Last post by Warren Dew on April 28, 2017, 09:17:01 PM »
Introductions / Re: I'm Johnny, and I'm new here...
« Last post by Warren Dew on April 28, 2017, 09:16:21 PM »

One possibility is to keep plenty of fruit around and nothing else with sugar.  As your taste buds heal from sugar burn, the fruit will start to taste plenty sweet.

If you go zero carb for a while, even fruit gets to taste too sweet.
Introductions / Re: Just starting this thing
« Last post by Warren Dew on April 28, 2017, 09:12:46 PM »
Welcome.  Sounds like you're on the right track - keep it up!
Research / Newly published Ancel Keys study
« Last post by Warren Dew on April 28, 2017, 09:06:03 PM »
Hey, looky here!  Turns out our old friend Ancel Keys did a huge randomized controlled trial with a coworker on people in nursing homes and asylums trying to show that polyunsaturated fats would reduce heart attacks relative to saturated fats.  Then when the actual data showed there was no benefit - cholesterol was reduced, but as many or more people died - he never published the results.  But the truth got the last laugh, after he and a coworker died.
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