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Food Journals / Re: celticcavegirl's paleo in the city
« Last post by celticcavegirl on Today at 05:37:43 PM »
21st
lunch
ham hock terrine
duck leg
braised cabbage w

dinner
lamb chop
broccoli
booze (champagne)

22nd
lunch
salmon minute with samphire and watercress salad
chicken w spinach
black coffee
small slice goat cheese

workout - krav maga 2hrs

dinner
2 trout fillets fried in lard w goat butter and lemon zest
1 beetroot
roasted med veggies
carrot w hazelnut butter
some bluebrroes
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Diet and nutrition / Re: paleo plus rice
« Last post by celticcavegirl on Today at 05:34:53 PM »
Quote from: scottportland on May 21, 2012, 12:37:30 PM
best sources of fat not from animals? avocado, raw nuts, olives and olive oil, anything else?

Coconut.  A coconut over here is about 70p and well over 1000 calories.  One of my friends is paleo on a budget and very active and eats about 4 coconuts a week.

Cocoa fat is good too, as is palm oil if you can get unprocessed stuff from Nigeria or Uganda

Raw nuts - in moderation, 20g a day.  Macadamias and hazelnuts have the best fatty acid profile

Olive oil - raw only

You could even consider heavy (double) cream or creme fraiche or really fatty yoghurt.  Dairy has it's issues but it's certainly got more vitamins than rice, and cream has less protein than cheese. 

Sprouted quinoa > rice IMO
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Diet and nutrition / Re: Intermittent fasting
« Last post by celticcavegirl on Today at 05:26:39 PM »
Quote from: nz4ever on Today at 02:23:33 PM

 every time i drunk kefir i immediately felt better for a while.

Maybe because Kefir is made from milk which is, well, food, containing a nice balance of sugars, proteins and fats?


Quote from: nz4ever on Today at 02:23:33 PM
The low blood sugar you mention, what causes it? Isn't it from fasting?

Uh....yeah.  There is a limit to how much glucose can be made in the liver during ketosis/fasting.   Usually when people fast they make up for a significant amount (not always all) of the calories when they break the fast.  You're not doing that.  There is a limit to how much you can fast if you're not really overweight.  I tried to do IF and low cal and I was freezing, exhausted and miserable
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Diet and nutrition / Re: Intermittent fasting
« Last post by nz4ever on Today at 02:23:33 PM »
Quote from: celticcavegirl on May 21, 2012, 09:55:13 AM
Quote from: nz4ever on May 21, 2012, 01:35:01 AM
i started feeling exchausted and dizzy and shivering from cold.  So i figured it must be calcium deficiency.

How long and how often are you IFing for?  Wouldn't recommend more than 24hrs 1once per week unless you are really quite overweight....

Don't believe everything you read on the internet  ;)

I was not eating the whole day except from drinking 2 glasses of kefir every morning five days a week. And Iwas feeling perfectly energised. Then i would return home at night, eat a big meal like 200gr of salmon and cooked brocoli of equal size with a handful of nuts for dessert. After half an hour the most i would fall asleep.

Yes, I'm slightly overweight but apart from that, it made my digestion perfect and cause i didn't tire my body with that during the day, i felt really energised. That is for the first 4 days, after that the tremor started.
Well having had some experience with blinded doctors who don't even know what they' re talking about, i figured trial and error is my only chance of health improvement and internet is a massive database for that.


Quote from: Warren Dew on May 21, 2012, 10:02:49 AM
That sounds more like low blood sugar than like calcium deficiency to me.

Intermittent fasting should not cause nutritional deficiencies on paleo.  I can't speak to the candida diet.

I figured it must be something like calcium/magnesium deficiency cause every time i drunk kefir i immediately felt better for a while. So, you think even if i took all my calcium intake in one meal per day, i would still absorb enough? Maybe my problem was a lack of nuntrients alltogether and had nothing to do with fasting? The low blood sugar you mention, what causes it? Isn't it from fasting?


Could it be that my body isn't used to fasting, beeing an avid "eat 5-6 times a day" eater for years? I mean did paleolithic humans eat more than once per day? I really wanna solve the mystery here cause i' m not willing to give up the freedom intermittent fasting gives me.

Thanks to both for your answers.
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Miscellaneous / Re: Got lectured about my WOE today....
« Last post by goodsamaritan on May 21, 2012, 10:29:57 PM »
Quote from: Kframe on April 15, 2012, 11:57:39 AM
Well i was at a family gathering, lots of food and what not. I noticed a family member eating LC, its always easy to spot the LC eaters since i am one. We got to talking and i found out she is on stage 1 of south beach which is lc. We got to talking about what im doing and i told her i was doing a low carb paleo diet. She didnt know what that was, so i explained, with what i knew.(which isnt much, im still reading the books) I told her it is just eating like our hunter gatherer ancestors before we as humans started farming. She then says,"well they farmed in the bible".  I told her i know, but im talking how we ate before we started farming 10000 years ago. She launches into the whole, "well if you believe in evolution sure" thing and things didnt go well from there. I told her i wasnt interested in debating the morality issues, or evolution vs creationism becuase i knew what works for me. I tried to explain what Phytic acid was, and how were not built to digest foods containing it.  She says, there is know way to know if people in the old days could digest them or not, we have no way of testing, we could have changed since then. I tried to tell her thats not how evolution works, sudden changes like that just dont happen quickly.

I tell her a few people to order books from so she could read up on it. She proceeds to tell me im trusting man more then GOD and that is wrong...

Anyone else have to deal with that..

Never converse with bible thumpers.

It is always about results.


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Miscellaneous / Re: Got lectured about my WOE today....
« Last post by Wildrose on May 21, 2012, 02:52:33 PM »
 ::) Lovely... I hate how people presume that they know everything about God's plan. Personally, I think the Bible is a simplified version of God's plan because we humans couldn't possibly understand it all back then.  :laugh: And we can't now, but we need to keep trying, not closing our mind because "The Bible says"!

That's my opinion anyway. Off the soapbox now.  :laugh:
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Diet and nutrition / Re: paleo plus rice
« Last post by Wildrose on May 21, 2012, 02:43:24 PM »
I like coconut oil, but that's way too pricy if you're on a budget. If you start eating rice, I would suggest brown only, and only perhaps a half-cup a day. Cheaper meats would be a good way to go, and don't sweat organic if you can't afford it. I checked out the price of organic veggies in my city and it just about knocked my socks off. I won't pay 4.50 for one cucumber!
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Diet and nutrition / Re: So wait-- how do I start? Am I on the right track?
« Last post by erliechda on May 21, 2012, 01:07:38 PM »
The benefits are well worth it to this diet, but that doesn't make it any easier. The latest pitfall we just discovered was vacation. Two weeks of hectic travel (not to mention weddings and parties!) full of temptation, too little time and difficult to find foods. We did... Ok, at best, but we discovered that it was very easy to get back into it when we got home.
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Diet and nutrition / Re: New to Paleo diet...I need help!!
« Last post by erliechda on May 21, 2012, 12:54:39 PM »
My wife could almost have written your story! Apples and good almond or even peanut butter did her wonders as both a mid afternoon snack and to eat before bed to feel better when she woke up.
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Diet and nutrition / Re: paleo plus rice
« Last post by scottportland on May 21, 2012, 12:37:30 PM »
best sources of fat not from animals? avocado, raw nuts, olives and olive oil, anything else?
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