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Diet and nutrition / Re: Paleo baked goods
« Last post by cavegirljoy on September 30, 2014, 03:13:59 PM »
Paleo 'baked goods'??..  ???

Surely not. That's totally messing with the concept of an early, or primitive diet, because when we look around the world at tribal diets that don't grow cereals we find that they eat little or no 'baked goods' - certainly not big loaves!

I believe that the cave diet may have certainly contained some grain component, because we've found grain traces in caves where people lived. There are in most countries a wide variety of wild seeds, nuts and grains and the easiest way to make the most of this food source is to grind them and make a porrige, or mix with water into a flat patty to bake on a rock by the fire - many tribal people and woodsmen eat this way.

It's easy to imagine that hungry cave people saw animals eating certain grains, seeds and nuts then tried eating it themselves. However, it is a component of a primitive diet and certainly not a staple, or eaten to excess like bread in a modern western diet.

For those addicted to baked goods my advice is that you need to make a genuine commitment to eating the cave/primitive diet and just get rid of all the modern junk; including baked goods. It can be hard for the first few weeks, but it's psychological mainly, and when it goes away you find that you stop thinking about bread, etc, and it doesn't bother you to see it in shops, etc. Otherwise, try occasional flat baked patties using ground wild grains, seeds and nuts in the tribal fashion.
Research / Re: New Euro study attacks red meat
« Last post by cavegirljoy on September 30, 2014, 02:32:14 PM »
It is possible you know that since cave times and the change in our diet to cereals, etc, from what we should be eating has actually caused our digestion to start failing at being able to cope with red meat. This has happened and is happening more and more - i.e. with the increase in lactose and gluten intolerance. It's possible that red meat is freaking our guts in many people.

As research improves the facts are becoming clearer about any danger from eating red meat to excess, but we still have years to go to get to the truth of it. A lot seems to do with L-Carnitine, which bacteria in the gut turns into compounds that are directly linked to causing arteriosclerosis leading to heart attacks - but you would need to eat a lot of red meat daily to be in danger.

By far the greatest danger to health is eating salted and processed meat - so cave diets are perfect! Those meats cause toxic substances to be made in the guts that can kill anyone - this is true; please search for the latest research.

About red meat anyway... tribal peoples eat very little red meat, because it isn't available, so they don't eat it regularly and when they do it's usually a small/medium kill divided between their village or extended family. Northern tribes have always prized fat over flesh anyway. I believe this would have been the pattern for cave people and how our guts have evolved i.e. to eat red flesh infrequently - perhaps a chunk of meat every 2-3 weeks. Primitive diets depend mainly on birds, fish and small creatures that are easy to catch/find rather than red meat that we eat in the west. Plus they are a lot to do with what grows in season and what can be scavenged too.

It's clear cut and commonsense that adults with fully healthy guts who eat a complete healthy diet have no need to take supplements. However, at any time when gut health is compromised, or for people with chronic or congenital digestion issues they most definitely need supplements to stay healthy - in my opinion in our current era this would be the majority of adults if we add all those who for whatever reasons do not eat a healthy complete diet.

Research / Re: Human Gut Neural Processing Capacity
« Last post by cavegirljoy on September 30, 2014, 01:50:53 PM »
I don't know if anyone is still interested in this subject as the question is very old, but it has had many readers, so if you want to know....
There has been significant research into this and perhaps the first published work was in the 1920s written by Theron Q Dumont 'The Solar Plexus; or Abdominal Brain" - it's pretty interesting - you can buy it as a reprint on ebay, or read it online at
To find tons of info just search "abdominal brain" - also take a look at New Scientist magazine online as there have been several great articles in there about it.
The solar plexus is indeed a powerful mini-brain that is connected to our guts and also to our head brain. It's still quite a mystery, but it is known now that there is a powerful emotional connection between the solar plexus, guts and head brain that interact and communicate with each other.
The trouble is that most people have lost the capacity to 'listen' to their solar plexus even when it's shouting loud. Some people though get 'gut feelings' that guide their actions/reactions and this usually works brilliantly - which I think is how animals are able to react far quicker than people as they must have a 100% awareness of their solar plexus brain, which is actually like having a sixth sense that keeps trying to guide us. It is a processing centre that creates associations between our feelings and reactions that trigger chemicals, so the next time we experience those triggers we get the same emotional reaction - i.e. if ice-cream gave you happy feelings as a kid, this is why when you see, smell, taste it as an adult you get the same reaction inside. It also works like this for far more complex situations; not always to do with ingestion, but the chemical reaction that things cause us to have. It works the same with fear especially; which is great for survival and is a prime cause of feeling a 'gut reaction' to suspicious situations.
It is possible to learn how to tune in to your gut brain and learn to understand what it's telling you. It's an interesting subject with plenty to learn. I'm very sure that cavemen, like animals, were fully in tune with theirs; unlike modern people.
Recipes and meal photos / Re: CavemanChefs "Evolving Cuisine"
« Last post by CavemanChefs on September 30, 2014, 10:23:09 AM »
ok Big update guys, WEBSITE is up and running !!!
Food Journals / Re: Jamie's Paleo Comeback
« Last post by JWSthe3rd on September 30, 2014, 10:15:17 AM »
Day 7 - 218.2 lbs - 4.6 lbs lost


2 cups of Italian Paleo Bake (ground beef, zucchini, mushrooms, onions, tomato sauce, eggplant)
1 1/2 cups of golden corn with melted grass-fed Kerry Gold butter


1/2 bag of Krave Pineapple Orange Beef Jerky
1 handful of mixed nuts


1 Venti Starbucks Iced Coffee with Unsweetened Vanilla Almond Milk
1 glass of Pepsi Max Diet Soda on ice
1 can of Sugar Free Redbull
Food Journals / Re: New to Paleo
« Last post by Warren Dew on September 30, 2014, 09:53:11 AM »
Salt is fine - have as much as you like.  On a nonpaleo diet, one gets a lot of salt in baked goods such as bread; on paleo, you have to actually eat the salt.  Paleo man had access to plenty of salt in the blood that came with his meat.
Food Journals / The Best 30 Day Paleo Challenge Ever starts next Monday!
« Last post by Seb_London on September 30, 2014, 08:23:46 AM »
Hey everyone,

I'm putting together a group to do a very special type of 30 Day Paleo Challenge.

Start date: 6 October 2014

Duration : 30 days

So this it the deal. 30 Day Challenges tend to be a bit boring, right? This one will be very different. All participants will become completely accountable to the rest of the group. No cheating. Full transparency. Maximum peer support, encouragement and motivation. Maximum results.


We will be using a free iOS app I have developed. We will be sharing pictures of every meal we eat with this app. The app will keep track of how many Paleo meals we eat, validate that the meals are actually Paleo, reward the participants with points and allow them to track their weight. There will also be a crowd-sourced feedback system to make sure everyone is going in the right direction.

For now there are about 40 people signed up. Would be great to involve as many people as possible!

Interested? Then leave a message below and email me your name at

See you soon

PS: I've also posted this on Reddit/r/Paleo (
PS2: Really sorry for those NOT on iOS, but for now, the app is only for iOS...
Food Journals / Re: New to Paleo
« Last post by change4life on September 29, 2014, 06:44:24 PM »
Only 1 meal
Chicken pan fried with onions, garlic, peppers
Green salad with more peppers, broccoli and carrots strips
Homemade beef jerky
Green beans( I know! Even worse they were canned!) I ate most of the can too... Last can though
Leftover crab meat

Omelette with peppers
Bacon 2 pieces
Beef and vegetable soup lunch and dinner
1/2 apple

2 eggs
Pistachios (I went a little crazy on them, I can't buy anymore  :(
Beef ribs
Beef jerky
2 more eggs
Handful of grapes

Huge pan fried chicken and spinach salad with jalapeņo peppers
Leftover broccoli
More peppers drizzled with olive oil salt and pepper

I'm cutting the fruit down to every other day right now I was in ketosis yesterday!
I don't know if I'm getting enough salt though, I don't usually like to add salt to cooked food but I was craving watermelon with salt today bad. I'm also drinking a lot of water, so even sprinkling in salt doesn't seem like enough.

Food Journals / Re: Jamie's Paleo Comeback
« Last post by JWSthe3rd on September 29, 2014, 12:02:54 PM »
Day 6 - 221 lbs - 0 lbs lost


2 Eggs & 3 Strips of Bacon
2 cups of Italian Paleo Bake (ground beef, zucchini, mushrooms, onions, tomato sauce, eggplant)


1 handful of Wonderful Chili Pistachios


1 12 oz. Sugar-Free Red Bull
1 cup of French Roast Coffee with Unsweetened Vanilla Almond Milk
1 12 oz. can of Diet Mtn. Dew
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