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Research / Re: Modern hunter gatherers sleep less than 7 hours a night
« Last post by BobbyT on June 23, 2016, 08:54:45 AM »
There are 5 stages of sleep and stages 3 and 4 are considered deep sleep the longer those stages occur the better your sleep should be because as the old adage goes, its not quantity, its quality that counts.
ABBA seems kind of random for this test doesn't it lol but really cool study.
Exercises / Re: Deadlifts = Dead back
« Last post by BobbyT on June 23, 2016, 08:48:03 AM »
Dead lifting is one of the best movement pattern for your body but the danger is if your form is not perfect you are going to severely hurt your back just as you did. When you notice that your form is not perfect anymore that is when it is time to stop it is important not to push yourself with these movements. I truly hope you feel better and be safe!
Miscellaneous / Re: I must be paleo if ...
« Last post by BobbyT on June 23, 2016, 08:42:31 AM »
Haha such a great problem to have!!
Diet and nutrition / Non Dairy Substitutes
« Last post by BobbyT on June 23, 2016, 07:58:19 AM »
Hi All, I am fairly new on the diet and was wondering if non - dairy ice cream was ok to have for a little cheat snack now and then.
Introductions / Re: Hello!
« Last post by BobbyT on June 23, 2016, 07:45:03 AM »
I became interested because I had recently been having problems with the food I eat, I searched the internet and found the Paleo diet and the quality of food you eat was much higher so I decided to give it a try.
Miscellaneous / Re: I finally found Paleo t-shirts!!!! Must have!!!!
« Last post by jlmetcalf86 on June 22, 2016, 08:46:18 PM »
Oh my goodness this is great! I've been on the hunt too but couldn't find anything on any of the major shopping sites. I've already backed but cmon others lets get this funded so we can all have some cool shirts to represent the community! "I'll eat veggies til the cows come home but then I'm eating the cow" Amazing!

Looks like only a few days left though so please hurry I want my shirts!

Ps thanks for the find COgirl

Relaxing to a soothing Mozart symphony can lower the blood pressure as much as cutting salt from the diet or exercising, a new study has shown.

But for people concerned about their heart, it might be wise to stay clear of ABBA, which has no impact at all.

Scientists in Germany played Mozart’s Symphony No 40 in g minor, dances by Johann Strauss and songs by ABBA to 60 volunteers, monitoring their blood pressure before and after the experiment.
"The music of ABBA did not show any or only very small effects on blood pressure and heart rate."Hans-Joachim Trappe

They found that Mozart lowered systolic blood pressure (the pressure in blood vessels when the heart beats) by 4.7 mm Hg, Strauss 3.7  mm Hg but the Swedish pop group made no significant difference.

Diastolic blood pressure (when the heart rests between beats) also fell by 2.1 mm Hg for Mozart and 2.9 mm Hg for Strauss.
I've been on paleo for 21 days.
Yesterday night I decided to make a little exception and have a meal of pasta with grated cheese and spinach.
About 1.5 hour or so after I had this meal I felt a bit tired.

I went to lie down for just a short while. I was overcome by extreme sluggishness and decided on the spot not to go out that evening but stay in..
Next I knew it was four in the morning! I literally passed out...

Something similar has happened to me when overeating sugary foods in the past.

Is my body now oversensitive to things like pasta, i.e. white flour or what could have happened?

It sounds like you might have diabetes, so I would get that checked out at the doctors.

And also get some food allergy testing done, because sometimes if you have food allergies they can also make you feel very tired and lethargic after eating them and gluten and wheat is one of the most common food allergies out there.
Diet and nutrition / Re: The caveman diet is making me very tired
« Last post by thunderseed on June 22, 2016, 03:07:35 PM »
Chocolate weetos

Sorry, but that's not paleo - no cereals are.  You'll need to cut out all grains, dairy, and legumes in order to be paleo.  No cereal, bread or pasta, since those are all grains; no peanut butter, since peanuts are a legume; no milk or cheese.  On the plus side, you can then eat as much meat, whole fruit, and green vegetables as you want.

Once you make those adjustments, and are actually eating a cave man diet, we may be able to help you.  I personally found that adding in some fruit helped with the blood sugar issue for me.
There are a variety of different paleo diets out there since it's become such a popular fad and a variety of different speculations on what foods should consist of a paleo diet, so I think you should probably source your opinion to the particular paleo diet you are following. But just so you know, there's quite a lot of people on paleo diets who eat legumes, and it's also been scientifically proven that neanderthals ate legumes:

And even dairy has been a controversy in paleo diets in recent years, quite a lot of people believe our ancestors ate it, and it's been proven scientifically that cheese was eaten way further back than we originally thought, I can't remember where I found that article.

Either way, you still need insoluble and soluble fiber in your diet and it's been proven that our ancestors got it by eating things we probably wouldn't eat today (for example tree bark), so I think that's another reason why a lot of people recommend eating legumes on a paleo diet (because they are high in fiber and aren't grains).

Anyway, to answer the original question... if you are getting so fatigued that you cannot move or get out of bed in the morning, you need to go see your doctor because that is NOT normal. There could be a number of reasons why that would happen but no one here can know for sure, because we aren't doctors. You can get blood tests done to check to see if your blood sugar levels, iron, vitamins and electrolytes are all up to par, they might be able to tell if it's related to your change in diet.
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