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Offline gabbah

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"Body by science" type training - is it any good?
« on: November 07, 2011, 10:45:05 AM »
I recently read body by science, and decided to try out this sort of high intensity training. For those of you that don't know it, I think www.baye.com has good info about it, and it's essentially the same as body by science, except that bbs uses super slow motions.
I'm wondering if people here have tried it and what your results are.
I'm trying it right now, and I'm posting my results in the form of a "graph blog" at http://thehitproject.blogspot.com

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Re: "Body by science" type training - is it any good?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 09:25:39 AM »
I am kind of trying it in that I am doing mostly one set to failure of core exercises. Training to failure does present problems using some free weight movements if you are on your own.
Deadlifting to failure I am a bit wary of.
I did my last weight-training 10 years ago and I'm new to this -around 3-months. I am happy so far even though my lifts are modest. I am 49 now though and am not sure what I should expect as my body is not typical anyway, but in the book they have clients in their 60's 70's and even 80's. As long as everything keeps moving up, I guess it's working. I train split every 4-5 days and even that is at the upper frequency range suggested in the book.
The very slow cadence is tricky and I think it really helps if you have a trainer there guiding you.
Recording TUL on your own is also tricky -I just do slow steady reps -around 3 secs in and 3s out (this is still slower than, well, everyone else I see there).
They have stuff on youtube that is so slow it's hard to tell if the trainee is actually moving!

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Re: "Body by science" type training - is it any good?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 12:45:54 PM »
For recording my own TUL I use a finger stopwatchwatch: http://www.athleticquickness.com/sporttimer.asp
That makes it a lot easier.
I do 10 sec up and 10 sec down I think. I also use a machine for squats for instance... the Smith machine.

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Re: "Body by science" type training - is it any good?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 01:56:05 PM »
Oooo. I love gadgets. Does it not interfere with your grip?
I would take huge care using a Smith machine for squats. The forced path reduces glute and ham input and results in bigger stress on the knees. I have heard enough bad stories of knee damage to be put off trying this machine.

Do you record TUL only? That is, is rep counting meaningless with this protocol?

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Re: "Body by science" type training - is it any good?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 02:00:03 PM »
No, it's doesn't really interfere with my grip, as it's on the index finger, and you usually put more pressure on the two middle fingers. Yeah I love this little device. I used my iphone before, and that was a hassle.

Yes I only measure TUL and weight. Reps are irrelevant as I do super slow movements anyway. Just hold out in pain as much as you can! ;)

I used to train with free weights before, but that's not an option in the gyms I use now. When I finish the exercise I need to land the bar on something, so that's why the smith machine is a good machine for that.
Personally I don't notice that much difference though, the smith serves it's purpose for me. If I want to use more glute and ham I simply put my feet a bit further under the bar, so I have to stick my butt out a little bit more. I feel it instantly connected more with the glutes.
I've never had any knee problems. Perhaps other people with more sensitive knees might have problems.

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Re: "Body by science" type training - is it any good?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 02:00:03 PM »