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b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« on: January 26, 2010, 01:44:55 PM »
Note this cancer cure is considered to be a quack by the government.

I have been researching the Federal Reserve and came across this podcast by Edward Griffin he wrote a book Creature from Jekyll Island, basically showing the Federal Reserve is a scam.  The the quality of the interview is great but has little health info.

http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/entry/2009-05-31T21_30_03-07_00

During the interview he mentioned he wrote another book, "A World without Cancer".  I didn't read the book, but he claims cancer is a B17 vitamin deficiency.  You can find his videos on youtube and google.

Here is site that mentions some info on B17:

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Laetrile.html

But what strikes me is if you eat a Paleo diet with fruit, you will probably be getting a lot of Laetrile (especially if you eat seeds).  Add that to Vitamin D, and you might lower your cancer risk significantly.

Here is a good interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaWlWRoTPOY

http://www.ehow.com/about_5394151_sources-vitamin-b.html

Be careful, eating more than one apricot kernel a day might be hazardous.  But, I have been eating the seeds lately.
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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2011, 05:18:11 PM »
This is the best topic that never garnered a reply

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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2011, 05:54:28 PM »
Note this cancer cure is considered to be a quack by the government.

This is the best topic that never garnered a reply

B17, also known as Laetrile, also known as Amygdalin has been promoted as a cancer cure for over 80 years. It pretty much is quackery. For every 'cured' person there are hundreds of dead.  Steve McQueen is one of them.  Recently I met a woman on her way to Mexico because she believed there was a conspiracy to prevent people from getting cancer cures. She died about 6 weeks later.

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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 06:32:44 PM »
Never heard of this before, but after 5 seconds of research - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdalin

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Since the early 1950s, a modified form of amygdalin has been promoted under the names laetrile and "Vitamin B17" as a cancer cure, but it is not a vitamin,[3] and studies have found it to be ineffective and potentially toxic[4][5][6] as a possible cause of cyanide poisoning.[7] The promotion of laetrile to treat cancer has been described in the scientific literature as a canonical example of quackery,[8][9][10] with Irving Lerner of the University of Minnesota describing it as "the slickest, most sophisticated, and certainly the most remunerative cancer quack promotion in medical history."[3]


Also - http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/laetrile/HealthProfessional/page5
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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 06:41:56 PM »
Note this cancer cure is considered to be a quack by the government.

This is the best topic that never garnered a reply

B17, also known as Laetrile, also known as Amygdalin has been promoted as a cancer cure for over 80 years. It pretty much is quackery. For every 'cured' person there are hundreds of dead.  Steve McQueen is one of them.  Recently I met a woman on her way to Mexico because she believed there was a conspiracy to prevent people from getting cancer cures. She died about 6 weeks later.

I'll remind you that the Paleo WOE is also called quackery.

Most folks with cancer don't turn to B17 until last resort.  They've been given a month to live after spending their life savings on radiation treatments and are told to get their affairs in order.

Even so 15% of them recover.  People who go the natural route from the start have an 80%+ rate.

(FYI, doctors have a lower survival rate from cancer than their patients.)

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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 07:01:08 PM »
People who go the natural route from the start have an 80%+ rate.

Can you post the evidence for that please? Did you just mean for those who've been declared terminal, or the general survival rate? Also what do you mean by 'natural' specifically?

The 5 year survival rate for breast cancer for instance, while using traditional western treatments is above 80%.

On the flipside I've seen studies that show using alternative medicine alongside traditional can lower survival rates.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12565991

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This study examines the association between alternative medicines (AM) and cancer survival. A national multicentre study was carried out in Norway in December 1992 to assess the prevalence of AM use among cancer patients. One of the aims of this study was to assess the association between AM and long-time survival. In January 2001, survival data were obtained with a follow-up of 8 years for 515 cancer patients. A total of 112 (22%) assessable patients used AM. During the follow-up period, 350 patients died. Death rates were higher in AM users (79%) than in those who did not use AM (65%). In a Cox regression model adjusted for demographic, disease and treatment factors, the hazard ratio of death for any use of AM compared with no use was 1.30, (95% Confidence Interval (CI) 0.99, 1.70; P=0.056), suggesting that AM use may predict a shorter survival. Sensitivity analyses strengthened the negative association between AM use and survival. AM use had the most detrimental effect in patients with an ECOG (Eastern Cooperative Oncology Group) performance status (PS) of 0 (hazard ratio for use=2.32, 95% CI, 1.44, 3.74, P=0.001), when compared with an ECOG PS of 1 or higher. The use of AM seems to predict a shorter survival from cancer. The effect appears predominantly in patients with a good PS.
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2011, 06:37:06 PM »
I'm thinking lately that cancer is just one of the results of living your life with highly elevated glucose/insulin levels as a result of a high carb and specifically high glycemic carb diet. Good Calories Bad Calories talks about the countless examples of people from traditional HG tribes who came into contact w/ Europeans and subsequently white flour and sugar and how they went from healthy to having epidemic levels of cancer, obesity, diabetes, gout, etc. I just don't think we're designed to be running around with such highly elevated glucose levels.

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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 08:36:42 AM »
Note this cancer cure is considered to be a quack by the government.

I have been researching the Federal Reserve and came across this podcast by Edward Griffin he wrote a book Creature from Jekyll Island, basically showing the Federal Reserve is a scam.  The the quality of the interview is great but has little health info.

http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/entry/2009-05-31T21_30_03-07_00

During the interview he mentioned he wrote another book, "A World without Cancer".  I didn't read the book, but he claims cancer is a B17 vitamin deficiency.  You can find his videos on youtube and google.

Here is site that mentions some info on B17:

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Laetrile.html

But what strikes me is if you eat a Paleo diet with fruit, you will probably be getting a lot of Laetrile (especially if you eat seeds).  Add that to Vitamin D, and you might lower your cancer risk significantly.

Here is a good interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaWlWRoTPOY

http://www.ehow.com/about_5394151_sources-vitamin-b.html

Be careful, eating more than one apricot kernel a day might be hazardous.  But, I have been eating the seeds lately.

If you ate a RAW paleo diet you would get all your vitamins intact and biologically available.

Raw paleo diets and its variants are known to CURE cancer. 

Nothing exotic needed.  Look up Aajonus Vonderplanitz.  Look up G.C. Burger.

My cancer cure protocol has raw paleo diet in it.  And it will work if you tried it. 

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2011/03/20/is-there-a-cure-for-cancer-yes-everyone-can-do-this/

We don't have apricots in my country, but we do have guavas and they are loaded with vitamin C.  Combine this with raw fat such as coconut meat, raw eggs at breakfast and in a month white hair turns black again.

BTW I cured my plumber of 6 months to live terminal liver cancer, plus he has recovered from 8 years of E.D.
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Re: b17 possibly eliminate cancer
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