Insight?  Criticism?  Questions?  First obvious problem is that this study was done on mice.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-cooking-energy-meat-driven-human.html

I always operated under the assumption that cooked meat would provide less energy than raw meat.

Insight?  Criticism?  Questions?  First obvious problem is that this study was done on mice.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-cooking-energy-meat-driven-human.html

I always operated under the assumption that cooked meat would provide less energy than raw meat.

I've read here and there that cooking meat increases digestibility. So it could deliver more calories.

I will present 3 examples:

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My 10 year old son (not that one in my avatar) is recovering from grave illness... very very visual debilitating itchy almost full body eczema on the outside (but inside it is wrecked large intestine, small intestines, super leaky gut, with candida, yeast, fungus)

As part of his recovery he needs to be on a RAW Paleo Diet.

And each time he and his mom tried to "cheat":
- eating cooked fat (butter - even if grass fed)
- eating cooked fish
- eating cooked vegetables
- eating cooked rice

His "cheat" would result in immediate regression of his illness. He wakes up and his skin and itch tells him... ha! you cheated! (yourself)

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Just 2 weeks before my son got sick I saved my in-laws' driver (50 years old) from deathly pneumonia.  I also put him on a raw paleo diet for 10 days.  In his case a lot of raw fatty beef and raw fish and raw clams and raw oysters.

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My then 4 year old daughter had very painful tooth decay in a molar.  We went to the neighborhood dentist and he said it was too inflamed to work on it.  He suggested 3 days of antibiotics and the pain will go away in 3 days.

I had a better idea.  I put my 4 year old daughter on zero carb / raw meat raw fat only + water for 3 days.  I gave raw beef, raw marrow, raw clams and in only 2 (two) days her pain and inflammation in her tooth decay went away.

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So everything is IFFY on an individual level, genetics, current state of health.

For the very ill, cooked meat will most likely suck.

The very ill must bet on raw meat, raw fat to recover... back to nature baby.

What does healing the very ill with raw meat tell us?

Quote from: goodsamaritan on November 07, 2011, 08:17:28 PM

What does healing the very ill with raw meat tell us?

that you haven't even touched on the topic of this thread?

Healing "Energy" is a valid form of "Energy".

As far as the human body's energy expenditure on DIGESTING cooked meat is far longer and far greater... than raw meat.  Because raw meats freshly killed, never been stored in "plastic" or aired properly or aged properly have their own beneficial probiotic bacteria and enzymes that help the meat digest themselves in 1 hour's time compared to 3 to 4 hours time for cooked meat.

You can experiment yourself and see that you need MORE sleep regularly eating cooked meat, while you need markedly LESS sleep when regularly eating raw meat.

So eating cooked meat all the time, humans suffer a penalty with DIGESTION.

And there is also the penalty of DETOXIFICATION which is another Energy EXPENSE.  Because the body has to sort through and remove toxic stuff.

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On my 3rd or 4th month of Raw Paleo Diet (raw meat + raw fruit + some raw vegs) I decided to try out Cooked Meat Paleo diet (cooked meat + raw fruit + some raw vegs)... and to be fair, zero condiments, just to see if I could make it work and make me seem more "normal".  I blogged about this as I had to stop my cooked meat paleo diet after 30 days as I was feeling progressively really bad by day 30 I had to stop. 

So I went back to raw meat paleo diet. 

Just my experience, a sample of 1.

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Cooking for me is a great SURVIVAL tool and when times got tough in "the garden of Eden", then the smart people learned to cook to eat consume more of the lessening animal, to cook vegetation or root crops or animals that would otherwise have been INEDIBLE.

Of course the tribes who knew how to cook and store food grew and conquered the uneducated barbarians.

I simply can not wrap my head around eating raw fish/pork/chicken.  I like a medium-rare steak, but that's the extent of it.  I have a hard time with the bacteria issue.  I know that people say that the bacteria in the meat is safe for humans as we have been ingesting it for millions of years, but, just to play devil's advocate here, wouldn't it be safe to say that the bacteria in animals has evolved just like all of the antibiotic resistant strains that hospitals are dealing with on a regular basis.  I would find it hard to believe that the bacteria in a chicken today and a chicken 10,000 years ago are the same.  And even if you eat only organic, pastured meat, the quality of the food source for the animal has changed.  There is nothing about today's life that mimics the Paleolithic.  I guess that's why I have a hard time buying into the "raw".  I could be way off base, it's just a thought...