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Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« on: July 16, 2009, 05:27:56 AM »
Women who use oral contraceptives apparently don't need as high an RDA for iron:

http://books.google.com/books?id=4xGX35V3WiIC&pg=PA331&lpg=PA331&dq=rda+iron+oral+contraceptive&source=bl&ots=gnF2mXUBJq&sig=ZoZWDi4ZHbwWJNvVcp68NkhkSu4&hl=en&ei=8xpfSvSuDYuqNpzJsa4C&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4
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The use of oral contraceptives lowers menstrual blood loss. As a result, ...women using oral contraceptives may have lower iron requirements.

http://books.google.com/books?id=yuaSJvZr3ikC&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq=rda+iron+women+contraceptives&source=bl&ots=qf_t1JHUlR&sig=Afu68jSHixIds_hVMR4iPOLpPU0&hl=en&ei=_htfSo6WDJKyNpr1tK4C&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1
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RDAs for Iron
Females, 19-50 yrs: 18mg
Adult premenopausal women taking oral contraceptives: 10.9mg
Males, 19 and older: 8mg


http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1699023
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It would be interesting to know whether the increase in,
serum-iron concentration which follows treatment with oral
contraceptive drugs is due to an increased efficiency of iron
absorption or to increased mobilization of iron from tissue
stores. Whatever the explanation, the combination of higher
levels of serum iron and smaller loss of menstrual blood in
women taking oral contraceptives than in those using other
forms of contraception might make the development of
iron-deficiency anaemia less likely. Furthermore, since repeated
pregnancy is a cause of iron-deficiency anaemia, a
reduction in the number and frequency of pregnancies might
also be expected to reduce the incidence of this disease.

So, since less blood is lost and there are no repeated pregnancies which also cause anemia, a lower RDA for iron is needed for women on oral contraceptives.

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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2009, 05:32:27 AM »
Also here's some other info on the changes of nutrients needed for women taking oral contraceptives:

http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?Id=1260

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Oral contraceptives may create certain nutrient deficiencies and excesses as well as increase the nutritional needs of the user. Most of the B vitamins, particularly pyridoxine (B6) and folic acid, are needed in higher amounts when birth control pills are taken. The copper level usually rises, and zinc levels often fall. Thus, more zinc is needed as well. An increased need for vitamins C, E, and K may also result from the use of birth control pills.

In Nutrition and Vitamin Therapy, Michael Lesser, M.D., points out that birth control pills cause an alkaline imbalance in the vagina that may lead to increased susceptibility to infection. Extra ascorbic acid, 1?2 grams per day, may help balance the acid environment and prevent this problem. He and other authors also suggest that the increased blood levels of copper generated by oral contraceptive use may contribute to depression and emotional symptoms; additional manganese and zinc may reverse these symptoms. Sharon DeBuren, nurse practitioner and nutritionist, adds that the depression from BCPs is also neurochemical reaction to artificial steroids (female hormones), and from a lack of a women?s own superior hormones?estradiol and natural progesterone secreted with ovulation. Iron levels may also rise, and less iron may be required because the pills often reduce the amount of menstrual blood loss, as well.

Because BCPs are metabolized by the liver before being eliminated, a diet low in other liver irritants is suggested. Alcohol, cocaine, and other drugs, pesticides and preservative chemicals in food, as well as fried foods should be avoided. Cutting down on refined foods and sugary treats is also suggested; these foods are "empty" calories and may cause further nutrient depletion. Avoiding nicotine and fried foods is also a good idea to prevent further vascular irritation.

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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2009, 06:40:00 AM »
How about just dropping these poisonous contraceptive drugs / hormones altogether and be a natural paleo human being?

There are better natural birth spacing alternatives that do not take a toll on health: various natural family planning techniques are very effective.
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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2009, 06:49:53 AM »
I love my oral contraceptives! I'll never stop taking them. They've changed my life! I used to have debilitating pain not just a week a month during menstruation but then again at the "middleschmertz" too. And I was a hormonal roller coaster. Every month I was completely non-functional, in tears, writhing in agony. I'd take tons of ibuprofen for the pain and still couldn't work or do anything but cry.

DH says "Please don't ever stop taking them!!" (because he had to deal with all that, and it was really, really horrible.) And I agree with him, I am happy, healthy and enjoy life so much more now!
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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2009, 06:54:39 AM »
Strange to hear that "lovable" side effect of these drugs.  In our healing circles, oral contraceptives are the cause of many, many, diseases women regret later on.  You reap what you sow.

Maybe you can find in the paleo diet and paleo lifestyle a combination that will surpass the "lovable" side effects of your drugs so you eventually drop the drugs because you no longer need them as a crutch.
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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 07:31:50 AM »
I don't see any reason to stop taking oral contraceptives since they have improved my life so greatly, why try to fix what isn't broken?  Everyone around me (husband, co-workers, family, all my customers) can attest that I am much, much happier, healthier and very much more enjoyable to be around! ;D  I'm not at all interested in returning to a life of unhappiness and misery!

I have done plenty of research (as you can tell I love research!). I found that high-level oral contraceptives (which were common previously) DID have negative effects. But I have found no research on the new, low-dose ones, that would convince me that their few negative effects outweight their many positive effects. If you have research that you'd like to share, let me know!
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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2009, 08:29:06 AM »
No drugs... no possible side effects... paleo women did not need drugs.

Maybe you can find in the paleo diet and paleo lifestyle a combination that will SURPASS the "lovable" side effects of your drugs so you eventually drop the drugs because you no longer need them as a crutch.
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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2009, 09:30:48 AM »
If I had any negative side effects, I might consider discontinuing them. But as I've had nothing but positive effects, I have no reason to discontinue, you know what I mean?

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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2009, 01:42:56 PM »
You know, contraceptives are a choice...so let's not get on Marika about that.  Since I assume Marika is of childbearing age but has no children, the contraceptives may actually be a blessing.  The longer women suppress estrogen, the less chance of many of the female cancers (breast, ovary, etc).  This suppression is usually the result of multiple pregnancies and breastfeeding well into toddlerhood (at least in paleo times).  If she's not having lots of kids like her body expects, it can have negative effects.  Increasing her progesterone, albeit artificially, will decrease her chance of cancer.

Personally I hate hormonal contraceptives for myself.  I felt awful, gained weight, lost hair, etc.  I don't have heavy or painful periods, and now my DH has had a vasectomy.  ;D  I did have many years of suppressed estrogen though (2 failed pregnancies, as well as one successful one and 3 years of breastfeeding), so I feel I've done enough.  ;D

As for iron, I crave red meat like a madwomen in the week before my period...so I think I'm getting plenty.  :)

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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2009, 02:43:02 PM »
Thanks for the support Karlin! And yes, I am exactly in the situation you describe, and there are so many advantages for me (and no disadvantages) that there's really no reason to think of discontinuing in my instance!

I just wanted to share what I found with any other oral contraceptive users here (or their significant others).

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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2009, 04:10:27 PM »
Karlin,

Nobody is restricting CHOICE on Marika, Shell_Piece and I are just presenting BETTER CHOICES.

My wife had painful periods in her younger days but she never took the drug route.

I'm happy for your PRESENT condition.  It's your FUTURE I'm worried about.
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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2009, 04:51:03 PM »
Believe me, I don't like the idea of having to take any kind of prescription, but unfortunately some folks just need the benefit of modern medicine. Sure, maybe you can live without it, but you may not live as well, as happily, or as functionally. I believe for some folks (me for one), there have been some great improvements to life through modern medicine.

For example, I have two customers that are now able to function in society again after surviving traumatic war wounds and shell shock, through the use of prescriptions. Without their prescriptions, they are almost completely incapable of functioning normally, conversing intelligently, writing a check, etc. However, with their prescriptions, they are happy, comfortable, and almost completely different people. In fact they are both actually doing some teaching work now. I would not deny them the benefit of being able to be contributing members of society.

Modern medicine has its place for some of us. I for one am incredibly happy to have my life turned around! I suffered and lived half a life (since two weeks of every month were basically lost) for so long, I tried many, many "natural alternatives", including elimination diets, supplementation, exercises, homeopathic medicines, the list goes on and on...None of them changed my life like a simple oral contraceptive has! So, maybe you can understand now why it doesn't seem to be a better choice to me to stop taking them?



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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2009, 05:35:32 PM »
All money for drug studies are backed by the same drug companies to support sales of their drug products.  It's a money merry go round.

Not suggesting you stop drugs immediately now. (think withdrawal symptoms)

It's like DRUG REHAB.

You replace the drugs slowly with more nutritious raw paleo food with raw fats with raw probiotic meats, with emo free techniques, with nurturing techniques, etc and you slowly wean away from the drug by taking less and less drugs... eventually, you do not use any drugs and go completely natural.  You eventually wind up drug free with even BETTER results.

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Re: Less iron needed for oral contraptive users
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 07:45:23 PM »
I'd note that oral contraceptives basically simulate pregnancy hormonally, so they're more natural than many drugs.

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