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I thought the whole point of Paleo Diet was to get everything we need from food.
Thus zero supplements.

Quote from: goodsamaritan on October 06, 2010, 02:49:31 PM

I thought the whole point of Paleo Diet was to get everything we need from food.
Thus zero supplements.

I'm on the fence about this philosophy.  Look at it this way - If you were a paleolithic man, robust and healthy, and then you got a nasty cut while hunting and it got infected you would most likely die.  Today the same guy would be saved by penicillin, which is essenially a kind of supplement.  I guess it seems a little naive to assume modern man is totally incapable of "inventing" nutrition that benifits human health.  Some of the studies on acetyl-l-carnitine seem particularly compelling.

You are stretching the logic of supplements... to drugs...

And by the way dried ground cayenne will heal nasty cuts faster and better.

Try another explanation.

I'm combining answers to the two threads where you ask about this:

It's called withdrawal and you didn't need supps to get past it.  Now, if you couldn't deal with headaches, ok, then perhaps there are some alternatives to help you along such as keeping heavy cream in your diet for a few weeks. 

A supplement provides something we are missing from our diet, so your penicillin example is not valid.  However, as I state below there is at least one example of a supplement that may be necessary for many people.  I still don't think the supp you mention fits into that category though.  Looks like standard bodybuilder bullshit re-packaged with the word "paleo" attached.  We had a guy come to our gym selling "paleo snacks" that were so not paleo it was laughable.  There is a growing niche and the market is responding the way it always does.

And, to goodsamaratan, while I generally agree with you, Vit D isn't bioavailable in any significant amount other than from the sun.  So, in cases where you aren't in the sun every day for several hours, supplementation seems reasonable.

The penicillin example is valid to illustrate the point that the human mind can surmount problems nature, the cruel bitch, may throw at us.  Starting from that premise, it is not too much of an intellectual leap to conclude mankind may find or synthesis substances (molecules) that confer longevity or better general health.  The ingredients in that product are not bodybuilder bullshit, they are fundamental components of energy metabolism that fade as we age.  Replenishing them really does make old people preform and feel much better. Go to the Linus Pauling Institute website and review.  World class science is done there - far from bodybuilding snake oil.  And yes, things will become very missing from your molecular constitution as you age.  http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/f-w00/aging.html

Magnesium and coenzyme are ok/good.

The others aren't worthy

Read the link before previous to your comment.  You also have to start looking at aging as a disease - a disease that has possible treatments.  Read the link.  If you guys keep drawing conclusions based on the fact that paleo man did not do it so it can't be good then you framework of thought creeps into a religious doctrine that dismisses empirical evidence in favor of a simple reference point.  The other ingredients are very valid.  Some interesting shiz on grains - [No Commercial Links]  hopefully you decide this is more informative than spamy.

Barney - Me doth think you protest too much...  What is your commission?

LOL.  No commition.  Just trying to provoke a spirited debate.  Yeah!  Acetyl l carnitine shuttles fat into the mitochondria.  As we age the transport protein becomes disfunctional and adding ALCAR to the diet reverses this lack of burnable fuel problem.  Just saying.  
Don't believe me, just read the link.  I ain't pitchen anything,I'm simply exposing some info about some really exciting research.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/f-w00/aging.html
These critical micronutrients decline with age by up to 50 percent.  Critical to energy metabolism which may very well be the fundemental basis for aging.  As I said before mother nature is a cruel bitch - nothing wrong with beating her back with a broom handle.

If you were a paleolithic man, robust and healthy, and then you got a nasty cut while hunting and it got infected you would most likely die.

Neanderthal skeletons tend to have healed injuries.  Clearly they were pretty good at surviving wounds, even if they didn't have penicillin.