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Offline Barney Rubble

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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2010, 08:13:26 AM »
Excuse me if I don't believe you but this is a mostly open forum so you can say and post mostly what you want, with limits.  Sales people are often armed with "studies" to back-up their claims.  In my opinion Paleo is eating "unprocessed" foods and substances to the best of your ability.  Are you aware of all the processed Atkins foods that have hit the "market"?  Well, I am not ready for the marketing of Paleo "processed" products.  Processed does not equal Paleo plain and simple.  I am not making an argument that we must live and eat like actual cavemen but we surly should not eat processed foods to the best of our ability.
First off I'm not a salesman.  Sorry if I came off that way.  Second, I agree with the fact that processes foods are no where near as healthy as whole, "Paleo foods".  That is not the point I'm trying to make.  I bet most of us on this forum are 40ish or younger.  We have experienced mostly good health and vigor throughout our lives.  However, the next half-the back half- will unfold much differently.  Looking forward we have a slow, insidious decline of function and health.  Is this natural-yeah, I guess.  Can it be fought and delayed-absolutely.  Human health is nothing more than a daunting engineering project that 100 or 200 years from now we may well have figured out.  So I say to you- the ingredients  shown earlier WILL replenish and restore health to you in your old age-nothing bad about it, and it doesn't attack or conflict with your paleo philosophy.  And Bearso, you should not dismise a study without concidering it first.  
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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2010, 12:13:44 PM »
There’s really no need to add sups so you can lift heavier, run faster, look better…what ever.  These things will happen anyway when you eat foods that you’re built to eat.  Or rather, you quit eating crap you’re not built to eat.  
There is always some wonderful claim with new products.  People want results now and this obviously plays that up …be stronger, burn fat faster blah, blah, blah, but I think that gives a false sense of security.  If you want to lift heavier, you’re still going to have to work up to your goal.  If you want to lose weight or burn fat, you’re still going to have make decent food choices…with or without ANY supplement.
If I had this same sup but marketed it to say, people who play guitar.  Word would spread like wild fire that it didn’t do a damn thing to improve speed, learning ability or performance.  It takes time, commitment and practice.  There’s a reason supplements are marketed where they are.  Vanity situations are always the best target for claming better and faster results, therefore the best place to make the most money.  
This statement:

“The hallmark of “going paleo” is teaching your body to burn fat instead of carbohydrates. What sets My Spammy Supplement apart from other energy products is its proprietary formula specifically designed to promote and accelerate the conversion of fatty acids into a robust and sustained energy.”

That part might very well be true if they’re going to compare to other energy products, I have no idea.  
Honestly if being well fueled paleo style isn’t enough that our bodies know how to function without supplements that have to teach it, then we’re all F*#ked at that point, and I don't believe that's the case.  
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Offline Barney Rubble

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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2010, 01:07:33 PM »
Good post Posy.
All the marketing aside I simple feel that aging is sort of an unnatural process in that nature is asleep at the wheel.  I get that successful organisms need to try new genetic combination frequently to adapt to new situations but that is getting to be less and less the case as technology and medicine progresses.  I just believe that "topping off" and especially preventing the age related decline of critical energy creating micronutrients is beneficial.  There is indispiutable evidence that alpha lipoic acid and N-acetyl- cystiene for example prevent free radical damage to our mitochondria.  Nature simple does not care if this damage occurs after you have reproduced because you have forfilled your biological function of reshuffling your DNA to try a new (and hopefully improved) organism to keep the species going.  So if there are some truly beneficial substances, that confer health and slow aging, why not take them. The point is we ARE all F%^$ed in the end but why not use our minds and medicinal nutricutical chemisty to slow or prevent it as best we can.

Offline Warren Dew

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Re: New Supplement not needed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2010, 03:02:20 PM »
I bet most of us on this forum are 40ish or younger.  We have experienced mostly good health and vigor throughout our lives.  However, the next half-the back half- will unfold much differently.  Looking forward we have a slow, insidious decline of function and health.  Is this natural-yeah, I guess.

Speaking as one of the ones here who is well over 40, you guess wrong.

I started seeing that "slow, insidious decline" around 40, yes.  However, since I started paleo at 48 two years ago, that decline has not only stopped, but reversed partially or completely in many ways.  I've concluded that what most people think of as "aging" is in fact merely the symptoms of chronic overexposure to carbohydrates.  More and more, the peer reviewed science also supports this.

I don't think a paleolithic lifestyle will help us live longer, but I do think it will allow us to live the years we're going to live in good health - no supplements required.  For those of us who only adopt the paleo diet, and not paleolithic rates of sun exposure, supplementary vitamin D might be advisable, but likely no other supplements.



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Re: New Supplement not needed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2010, 03:24:31 PM »
I bet most of us on this forum are 40ish or younger.  We have experienced mostly good health and vigor throughout our lives.  However, the next half-the back half- will unfold much differently.  Looking forward we have a slow, insidious decline of function and health.  Is this natural-yeah, I guess.

I'm 41 and for almost 3 years on raw paleo diet and I feel and look the best ever in my entire life.  Has resolved all illnesses and whatever bothersome irritations.

Which means I've been handicapped by the wrong (SAD) diet my whole life.

I feel so so great why would I need supplements?

I like your marketing spirit though...
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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 05:22:47 AM »
I have a couple of question s to ask.
having been in the automotive shop for 23 years do any of us think my exposure to petrol chemicals call for a leaching them from my system? by that I mean these chemicals will and do settle in vital organs as time ticks away. That being said what could be done to eradicate them after I've left the shop for good?
I do wear protection in the form of gloves but the exposure such as exhaust and the like is everyday.
Any ideas??

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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 11:07:05 AM »
Petrochemicals would most likely end up in fatty tissue.  The turnover half life for fats in nonobese people is a few months, so I think staying away from them while eating paleo for a year or two would get you most of what you want.

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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 11:26:13 AM »
Well for now I am still in the biz, so eating better helps the attitude and less moody too.
I am just considering life away from this environment and wanted to get started now.

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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2010, 12:46:58 PM »
Petrochemicals would most likely end up in fatty tissue.  The turnover half life for fats in nonobese people is a few months, so I think staying away from them while eating paleo for a year or two would get you most of what you want.

The same reason why overweight casual marijuana users (2-3 times/year) shouldn't take a drug test within 6-8 months of imbibing.
Diets fail because society as a whole believes body image is more important than health. The problem is that obesity is simply one of many symptoms of an illness, not the illness itself.

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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2010, 04:18:25 PM »
I'm wit U, Barnny!

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Re: New Supplement designed for Paleo Diet
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