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So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« on: June 21, 2012, 01:51:03 PM »
I currently take daily:
B-100 Complex
2,000iu Vit D
1,000mg Vit C

Should I quit taking these?  Is there something I should be taking instead?  My doctor told me to get on fish oil, but there are so many different kinds, and they are so damn expensive, I just haven't made a decision on what I should spend my money on.

Also, I am taking a probiotic capsule once a day.

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 03:05:21 PM »
I get my Fish oil caps at Costco.  We just get the house brand from Kirkland.  Huge bottle for a fair price.  If you have Coatco near you.


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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 03:14:29 PM »
I get my Fish oil caps at Costco.  We just get the house brand from Kirkland.  Huge bottle for a fair price.  If you have Coatco near you.

I do have a cosco near me, and I've got a membership already :D  I saw the Kirkland and thought it was a pretty good deal, but like I said, I dunno how to choose between all the different kinds.  I'll probably go ahead and buy a bottle there, thanks for the response! :)

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 03:58:56 PM »
The paleo way to get B vitamins is from meat.  You probably don't need a B vitamin supplement on paleo.

The main paleo way to get vitamin D is from exposure to sunlight.  If you don't get a lot of sun exposure while the sun is high, you may still want a vitamin D supplement.  I myself take 4000 IU of D-3 per day, on days that I remember.

The paleo way to prevent scurvy is from raw meat and from vitamin C in fruit.  That said, some domesticated fruit doesn't have as much vitamin C as does wild fruit, and may not have enough to balance the immune system effects of the sugar in the fruit.  Strawberries and kiwis may have adequate vitamin C, but if you eat a lot of other fruit, you may want supplementary vitamin C.  I don't think 1000 mg per day would hurt.

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2012, 07:43:09 AM »
The paleo way to get B vitamins is from meat.  You probably don't need a B vitamin supplement on paleo.
First, thank you for taking the time to read my concerns and respond.  I do appreciate it :)  I will not re-invest any more money into vitamin B supplements after I finish off what I've already got.  I eat a lot of meat, including venison (deer).

The main paleo way to get vitamin D is from exposure to sunlight.  If you don't get a lot of sun exposure while the sun is high, you may still want a vitamin D supplement.  I myself take 4000 IU of D-3 per day, on days that I remember.
I'm stuck in an office all day Mon-Fri :(  I'll keep taking my vitamin D.  Can someone explain the difference between the different D vitamins?  I don't get what the numbers mean.

The paleo way to prevent scurvy is from raw meat and from vitamin C in fruit.  That said, some domesticated fruit doesn't have as much vitamin C as does wild fruit, and may not have enough to balance the immune system effects of the sugar in the fruit.  Strawberries and kiwis may have adequate vitamin C, but if you eat a lot of other fruit, you may want supplementary vitamin C.  I don't think 1000 mg per day would hurt.
I am curious about eating raw meat.  I like sushi, but clearly one cannot afford to eat sushi on a regular basis (or at least I know I can't).  I'm sure my fear of raw meat comes from FDA brainwashing, so maybe you can shed some light on that for me?  What is safe to eat raw?  How do you know it's safe, and how should it be "prepped?"  Does eating a rare steak count as eating raw meat?


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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2012, 11:56:02 AM »
First, thank you for taking the time to read my concerns and respond.  I do appreciate it :)

You're welcome.  That's what the site is for!

D2 and D3 are slightly different chemical forms of vitamin D that ultimately get converted into the active form, 25-hydroxy-vitamin-D, in the body.  Some people think they are equally good; some people think that D3 is better.  I take D3 just to be safe.  You do not need both.

The primary danger associated with raw beef comes from salmonella and e. coli contamination at the processing plant.  This contamination is only on the surface of the meat.  It can be mixed into the meat in ground beef, which is why eating rare hamburger is not recommended, and chicken comes in small enough pieces that it really has to be cooked all the way through as well, but rare steaks are fine as long as the surface is cooked.

Some forms of meat can be subject to intramuscular parasites.  This is why it's recommended to cook pork all the way through.  Fish for sushi is often frozen to a sufficiently low temperature to kill similar parasites so that it can be eaten raw - that's why sushi grade fish is different from regular fish.

The middle of a rare steak counts as raw meat, and that's where I get most of my raw meat.

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 01:27:17 PM »
D2 and D3 are slightly different chemical forms of vitamin D that ultimately get converted into the active form, 25-hydroxy-vitamin-D, in the body.  Some people think they are equally good; some people think that D3 is better.  I take D3 just to be safe.  You do not need both.

The primary danger associated with raw beef comes from salmonella and e. coli contamination at the processing plant.  This contamination is only on the surface of the meat.  It can be mixed into the meat in ground beef, which is why eating rare hamburger is not recommended, and chicken comes in small enough pieces that it really has to be cooked all the way through as well, but rare steaks are fine as long as the surface is cooked.

Some forms of meat can be subject to intramuscular parasites.  This is why it's recommended to cook pork all the way through.  Fish for sushi is often frozen to a sufficiently low temperature to kill similar parasites so that it can be eaten raw - that's why sushi grade fish is different from regular fish.

The middle of a rare steak counts as raw meat, and that's where I get most of my raw meat.
Excellent information, thank you for your thorough response!  I am learning a lot in the short amount of time I've been on this website. 

You did not address wild game, which I eat a lot of.  I often eat it rare, but feel nervous about it.  I kill, gut, clean, age, butcher, and package all of my own venison from start to finish.  I try to be very sanitary throughout the whole procedure, then the meat is stored at 0F in a (minimal) bath of salt water.  Is this safe to eat rare?

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 10:48:37 AM »
I've learned from Brian Peskin that fish oils are incredibly dangerous. He talks about taking parent essential oils. Look into Brian Peskin, his work in this field is nothing short of incredible.

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 05:50:23 PM »
Good fish oils (no mercury) can be very beneficial for those not able to afford grass fed beef yet, and those who don't like the idea of eating a lot of fat.

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2013, 02:47:03 PM »
D2 and D3 are slightly different chemical forms of vitamin D that ultimately get converted into the active form, 25-hydroxy-vitamin-D, in the body.  Some people think they are equally good; some people think that D3 is better.  I take D3 just to be safe.  You do not need both.

The primary danger associated with raw beef comes from salmonella and e. coli contamination at the processing plant.  This contamination is only on the surface of the meat.  It can be mixed into the meat in ground beef, which is why eating rare hamburger is not recommended, and chicken comes in small enough pieces that it really has to be cooked all the way through as well, but rare steaks are fine as long as the surface is cooked.

Some forms of meat can be subject to intramuscular parasites.  This is why it's recommended to cook pork all the way through.  Fish for sushi is often frozen to a sufficiently low temperature to kill similar parasites so that it can be eaten raw - that's why sushi grade fish is different from regular fish.

The middle of a rare steak counts as raw meat, and that's where I get most of my raw meat.
Excellent information, thank you for your thorough response!  I am learning a lot in the short amount of time I've been on this website. 

You did not address wild game, which I eat a lot of.  I often eat it rare, but feel nervous about it.  I kill, gut, clean, age, butcher, and package all of my own venison from start to finish.  I try to be very sanitary throughout the whole procedure, then the meat is stored at 0F in a (minimal) bath of salt water.  Is this safe to eat rare?

I would feel much safer eating raw venison (that I produced) than store bought beef.  Think of it this way.  That store bought beef come from a pen where it was exposed to hundreds or thousands of other animals.  It then went to a plant where it was put into pens with thousands of other animals.  It is then processed in the same facility that has processed potentially millions of other animals.  This beef has now been potentially exposed to possibly a million or more other cattle!  Which meat do you think is safer?

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2013, 07:00:11 PM »
I read somewhere you shouldn't take fish oil pills, that doctors have stopped giving them.
Wow, that's a lot of vitamins. I use a multi and few others like d3, c, e, and a B complex every other day. Too much B is seriously bad for your health.

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2013, 07:24:44 AM »
I read somewhere you shouldn't take fish oil pills, that doctors have stopped giving them.
Wow, that's a lot of vitamins. I use a multi and few others like d3, c, e, and a B complex every other day. Too much B is seriously bad for your health.

On paleo, one generally gets plenty of B vitamins in meat, so there shouldn't be any need for vitamin B supplementation.

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Re: So I Should Stop Taking My Vitamins?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2013, 08:05:46 PM »
Oh, I didn't actually mean to put that in there. lol
I mean in pill form, too much B is determining to your health. You don't take it everyday, it's harmful.