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Me training!
« on: September 02, 2009, 02:38:59 AM »
Ok so i'm too lazy to keep a training journal, so this will have to do!
I hit a wall with the last split training routine & have decided to focus more on core compound strength for a while.
My amateur whole body routine which i have been performing twicw a week goe's thus!

Dips 6-8
Chin Ups 6-8
Squats 8-10
Deadlifts 6-8
Upright Rows 6-8
Go home!

One set for all exercises each attempted to positive failure (well maybe not honestly Squats so far) :D am feeling a little less "bulky" but that could just as easily be be down to imagination. ;)

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 01:23:04 PM »
:D am feeling a little less "bulky" but that could just as easily be be down to imagination. ;)
Not necessarily.

There is consistent research that full body routines reduce body fat. You may be losing intra-muscular fat stores.

Something else to think about, the reduction of muscle glycogen stores from the increased intensity of full body training reduces intra-muscular water stores creating the "flat" look pre-competition bodybuilders combat by carb loading just prior to a show. I think you'll find your "fullness" will return after your body adapts to the new stimulus.


Just because I am a body geek-

Are you doing the same routine both days?

Is this the order you are doing the exercises in?

How many rest days between training days?

Thanks for indulging me. Hope you will make posts on your progress.  ;)


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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 06:45:39 PM »

Just because I am a body geek-

Are you doing the same routine both days?

Is this the order you are doing the exercises in?

Yes & yes!
How many rest days between training days?
Idealy 3 days so this may show the current level of commitment. :D

Train twice a week either monday or tuesday then either thursday or friday whichever is more convenient allowing two full rest days minimum. (so if training tuesday obviously can not train until friday)

Thanks for indulging me. Hope you will make posts on your progress.  ;)
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Part of the reason for choosing the above concoction is a lack of flexablity for deadlifts/squats but i otherwise feel real strong.. Am stoked with the plus weight for both dips & chins but i guess less body weight is a factor
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 07:16:46 PM »

Just because I am a body geek-

Are you doing the same routine both days?

Is this the order you are doing the exercises in?

Yes & yes!
How many rest days between training days?
Idealy 3 days so this may show the current level of commitment. :D

Train twice a week either monday or tuesday then either thursday or friday whichever is more convenient allowing two full rest days minimum. (so if training tuesday obviously can not train until friday)

Thanks for indulging me. Hope you will make posts on your progress.  ;)

Part of the reason for choosing the above concoction is a lack of flexablity for deadlifts/squats but i otherwise feel real strong.. Am stoked with the plus weight for both dips & chins but i guess less body weight is a factor
;)
[/quote]Right on! Thanks!
Had to go the the reply page to read the yellow type LOL My screen is broken. ::)

Are your hamstrings the problem with squats and deadlifts?

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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 07:25:09 PM »
No more a problem with maintaining correct form, tis getting better. :)


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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 04:33:12 AM »
Hehe i laugh at this thread title everytime :D

Nice little read Wlfdg you are both a fine gentleman and a scholar ;)

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 04:47:24 AM »
Reading these articles makes me feel weak (and that I should be dedicating a lot more time to lifting :()

I'm busting to get an oly bar so that I can do deadlifts...

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Re: Me training!
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 05:28:21 AM »
Visceral fat is the danger fat. insert clunky theme song here

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2009, 07:23:43 AM »
Hehe i laugh at this thread title everytime :D

Nice little read Wlfdg you are both a fine gentleman and a scholar ;)
It is funny. It actually makes me think of a kickboxing training partner I had a while back. His name was Dragan from Croatia.

Thank you sir. It is great to have people to share these articles with!

Indulge my curiosity a little further if you please?
What do you think of a split like this?

Day 1;
Squat
Pull ups/chins
Incline Bench
Up right row

Day 2;
Deadlift
Dips
Military Press

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009, 12:25:38 AM »
I likey Wlfdg especially the potential lack of volume in training!
I do suspect supporting torso strength may be an issue for military presses should deadlifts be performed in that order though. (to failure yes) ;)


Progress:
Flexibility is now almost a non issue! :)
Am still slightly progressing (strength wise) but have found the top program really taxing.. with any future whole body workouts id say more rest days are required.

Three more sessions to complete & ive now dropped the upright row exercise completely.

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009, 01:54:08 AM »
I likey Wlfdg especially the potential lack of volume in training!
Yea, just get it done!

I do suspect supporting torso strength may be an issue for military presses should deadlifts be performed in that order though. (to failure yes) ;)
Failure, yes. That is how you like to train. I'm more a "leave one in the tank" kind of guy. The dips in between will offer a bit of recovery for your core muscles and pre-exhaust your delts and triceps there by reducing the amount of weight you'll be pushing. You won't need to work up with a bunch of sets to your primary working set.

Progress:
Flexibility is now almost a non issue! :)
Good!

Am still slightly progressing (strength wise) but have found the top program really taxing.. with any future whole body workouts id say more rest days are required.
That's a big load to undertake! Squats and deadlifts back to back? That's tough! :o
With the split I've suggested you should be able to handle the workload. On Day 1 you have push, pull, push, pull. On Day 2 you have a big push/pull, big push and a lesser push with awesome full core work from the overhead lift. The Mon/Tues-Thurs/Fri split should give you plenty of recovery time.

 I'm doing 3 full body sessions a week with Olympic lifts on 2 days and heavy compound movements on all 3 plus hiking, biking, etc... You can certainly handle it.  ;)


Three more sessions to complete & ive now dropped the upright row exercise completely.
You have removed the only exercise with the lateral deltoid head as a primary agonist? They certainly work in deadlifts but as a synergist.

Thanks for indulging me! It's fun  :)

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2009, 04:43:39 AM »
Not overly concerned as shoulders are not a weak point!

I just need to feel 100% confident with deadlifts, if i get into a gym ill do my thing but doing anything consistently outside of that like say you know 'stretching' not a chance. ;D 

Glad you are having fun!




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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2009, 08:35:46 AM »
Not overly concerned as shoulders are not a weak point.
I was coming from a muscular/strength perspective. Balance, you know?

I just need to feel 100% confident with deadlifts,
I had gathered that. I think doing them when you are 100% will help.

if i get into a gym ill do my thing but doing anything consistently outside of that like say you know 'stretching' not a chance. ;D
Right on LOL  ;)
 

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Re: Me training!
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2009, 01:40:06 AM »
Grrr ate all weekend :P & feel good, ran 3km & did some broomstick deadlifts tonight.

Gunna wait until Wednesday for the next gym session & hopefully do it all balanced & 100%.