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Old program vs new?
« on: April 02, 2011, 03:11:52 PM »
So my old workout of Friday was usually something like this: split squats with 10# dumbbells- 10 reps, overhead press with 10#- 10 reps, jump squats -10, inclined chest press- 10 with 10-15# dumbbells and then some core exercise like planks for 30-45 seconds.  I would do them all in a row and then rest for 1-2 minutes and then repeat.  I liked it because it was strength and cardio.  Depending on how much time I had I would do 2-3 sets.  Two sets would take about 25 minutes.  I always felt sore in my glutes, quads and hamstrings after this.

I started a new program this week which is a more lfting approach.  To start 3 sets of 10 with weights, squats, lumberjack press, chest press, the first day and dead lifts, chin-ups and dips the second day.  I also did two sets of 20 sit-ups to help prepare for my fitness test this month. 

I only feel sore in my mid-back.  Of course heavier weights would help.  But, just wondering if there was something wrong with the way I did it before or if I could still gain lean mass like that.  If I stuck to a two day program of the 5 basic exercises and then did one day of my old program would that be beneficial?  Or would that be counter productive?  Let me say, I hate other forms of cardio, so that was a good way for me to improve my run without actually running.  I do swim and run some because I have to for squadron PT.
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Re: Old program vs new?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 05:04:42 PM »
That circuit will help with recovery and burn some kcals. You will not gain strength from it. Weights are too light.

To make that circuit worthwhile drop the jump squats, add rows after bench press and keep trying to increase the weight of dumbbells you are using.

@Mid back soreness I'm guessing you aren't lifting your chest up when you deadlift and squat? 

Soreness isn't not an indication of training effect. The soreness was from landing from the jump squats. Eccentric contraction creates soreness. Program didn't work to get you stronger previously.

The only way to improve your running is to run. It's motor patterns are way to specific.

Getting stronger will make running easier. Speed = FATG Force Against The Ground. More strength means more force. Specificity will allow you to express that strength.

Progressive overload + high threshold motor unit recruitment + consistency + adequate recovery + SAID = strength
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Re: Old program vs new?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 03:16:51 PM »
I am thinking the soreness in the mid back is from the chin-ups.  Although, it could be from my shoulder rehab too- a lot of rhomboid work for stability.
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Re: Old program vs new?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2011, 04:16:11 PM »
I am thinking the soreness in the mid back is from the chin-ups.  Although, it could be from my shoulder rehab too- a lot of rhomboid work for stability.
You mean upper back? T1-T7?
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Re: Old program vs new?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 10:18:53 PM »
No, just below the shoulder blades and a little above that, T7ish.  I suppose rhomboids was the wrong muscle to pick (a little embarrassed about that, maybe that is why I haven't been promoted yet- darn anatomy).  More like lower trap/lats.
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Re: Old program vs new?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 06:28:40 AM »
No, just below the shoulder blades and a little above that, T7ish.  I suppose rhomboids was the wrong muscle to pick (a little embarrassed about that, maybe that is why I haven't been promoted yet- darn anatomy).  More like lower trap/lats.
OK  so I'm going back to my original guess about not thrusting your chest up during squats and deadlifts?
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Re: Old program vs new?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 03:00:05 PM »
Could be.  I will pay attention to that next time :)  It isn't pain though, definitely sore muscles.
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Re: Old program vs new?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 03:00:05 PM »