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Offline MrAmbientify

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Paleo and Starting Strength
« on: February 15, 2012, 07:39:47 AM »
I've been on Paleo more or less for 4 weeks now. I thought it was a good idea with a soft transition but that was just wasted effort so I started 2 weeks ago legitimately.

I'm also 3 months into Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength, barbell exercise 3 times a week: Squat, bench, power clean, press and deadlift.

On my regular diet I've been feeling amazing after each exercise, I've been exploding with energy. As soon as I started cutting out the carbs I've been extremely tired (emphasize) right after exercise and the day after I'm practically a zombie. I have also a 10% performance decrease so I've had to go back a few weeks of progress. It's very frustrating to feel that you're worse off on the "healthy" diet than on my regular one.

So my question, is this normal? What can I do to try to mitigate this? I've been trying to eat much more than I normally did but also much more fat. Any ideas are welcome.

When will I see my workout back to normal?

Thanks
~B
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Offline Paleo Curmudgeon

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Re: Paleo and Starting Strength
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 09:29:23 AM »
What was your carb intake pre paleo and what is your carb intake now?
How many total Kcals pre-paleo and how many Kcals now?


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Re: Paleo and Starting Strength
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 10:39:16 AM »
Aye maybe I'm doing this wrong, because I don't count kcal.

Pre-Paleo: 4-5 slices of dark bread every day, ~1 liter of milk (I'm from sweden, I should be able to handle the lactose, but I've cut down on consumption), every meal has atleast rice, potato, pasta or bread. Every single day without fail. Lots of salad.

Post-Paleo: No bread, 1 glass milk ever 3-4 day, every meal is a healthy dose of just veggies and meat, only source of carbs is veggies. Zero sugars except from fruit. 3x mugs of coffee every day. A lot of coconut fat and butter when cooking, extra virgin oil on salad. Lots and lots of salad.

Hmm maybe I should start a meal diary.

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Re: Paleo and Starting Strength
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 01:56:29 PM »
I'd say try and get more fat from meat rather than veg and dairy.

Also just eat a bit more fruit before and after workouts, maybe start tapering it back again in a month or so.

If you are really pushing yourself in the gym you'll need the fruit.

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Re: Paleo and Starting Strength
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 02:06:07 PM »
I did Starting Strength with paleo. A few pointers:

1) Animal fat is always better than vegetable fat, even if the latter are also saturated.

2) Since you are trying to make massive gains a in a short time, this is one case in which you need to force-feed yourself even when you are not hungry. Eat 2 dinners (6pm and 9pm?) or things like that.

3) Up your fruit intake after workouts and in general.

4) Drop the milk. "Instead of milk, why not a dozen eggs a day? ADEAD?"


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Re: Paleo and Starting Strength
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 05:05:41 PM »
Some carbs are fine, especially if you're doing a fair bit of exercise.  In fact I've been doing quite a bit of reading about carbs recently and I don't think the phrase 'there are no essential carbs' is entirely true.

After your workouts, your muscles will have used up most or all of their glycogen stores so I really doubt that carbs are going to make you fat.  This board tends towards pretty low-carb but there are a fair amount of people who eat a little more carbs than the average on here - although there are a few on here who sometimes hit up a sweet potato after a workout

Carb sources
fruits, especially bananas
root veg - carrots, rutabaga, turnip, beets, onion, squash, artichoke roots, parnsips

paleo concentrated sugar sources
honey
dates (which I eat, delicious!)

3x coffee a day is quite a lot of coffee

It's likely that you're still transitioning into fat-burning metabolism, but you should be fully there in another 4 weeks


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Re: Paleo and Starting Strength
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 08:23:10 AM »
Thanks everyone for sharing their knowledge and experience, much appreciated :)

celticcavegirl- Yeah  I've found out that on my new diet, 3x coffee is way too much. I've been getting heart palpitations lately and it's not a pleasant feeling. I've now switched to tea. Yeah, I think I'm going to see if I can do a few more carbs pre and post workout.