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Offline Posy

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2010, 07:54:28 AM »
Hehe  nice video  :D

For those still practicing, try pretending you’re doing something on the ground.  Umm, like drawing on the floor with your finger, pulling weeds, playing marbles, whatever.  You’ll have to have your elbows between your knees to do that which might be helpful to start with…then go from there to just resting your elbows on your knees.       

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2010, 07:28:25 PM »
The appeal of it to me are the potential gardening applications. I could transplant in the ground and no tore-up knees, hips and back (even with the knee pad).


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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2010, 07:40:37 PM »
I use the squat to play with my niece who's learning to walk.

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2010, 08:45:54 AM »
I have been getting better and better at this. I can hold it now for a decent amount of time, but it is not comfortable yet. Holding it for a few minutes also ends up hurting my lower back a bit. My guess is I am leaning too far forward to keep my balance

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2010, 04:24:52 PM »
I think my achilles is way too tight. Foot to leg can't get much past 90 degrees


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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2010, 06:22:03 PM »
Don't try to force yourself to do a full traditional squat sit within a short time frame. Give yourself time. There are several factors that can make full squatting difficult for modern people who aren't accustomed to it:

> age (the longer you've been sitting in atrophying Western chairs and not squatting, the harder it will tend to be to squat)
> tight or weak calves and/or hamstrings
> weak connective tissues
> joint pain, joint degeneration, fused bones and other musculoskeletal issues
> low torso/leg ratio

That being said, one fellow at the Raw Paleo Forum who has a low torso/leg ratio was told to do squats by the Crossfit instructors and he has made some impressive progress in short order. He is fairly young and fit, though.

The one benefit of chronic back pain in my youth was that I never gave up squatting when my mother started telling me to stop doing it (as do most American mothers at some point as their children age and it's no longer considered socially "appropriate"), because it relieved the back pain (and it also felt more comfortable and natural and required less shifting than chair sitting).
« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 06:26:31 PM by paleophil »

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2010, 09:25:17 PM »
> age (the longer you've been sitting in atrophying Western chairs and not squatting, the harder it will tend to be to squat)
> tight or weak calves and/or hamstrings

Hi Phil! Good to see you here!

The whole back chain needs stretching for squats to work. In addition to calves and hamstrings, glutes need stretching too. Williams Back Exercise and its variants. Only hold for two seconds and do extra reps; 2-10 per side.

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2011, 12:32:16 AM »
I've discovered that my 11 year old daughter can't do this  :( we're working on it...

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2011, 07:25:42 PM »
Hi Ben.

There is also the "Western squat" compromise for people who can't yet do a full squat, such as in the video linked to earlier...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWTmg4dHiKg&feature=player_embedded#!

...and this one-legged variation: .
« Last Edit: April 24, 2011, 07:27:28 PM by paleophil »

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2011, 09:14:53 AM »
I can do it fine but my feet turn out like a duck to maintain balance. The guy pictured looked like his feet were pointing forward, which I can only hold for about 5 seconds.

It's the same problem I had when I started dumbbell squats.

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2011, 09:26:42 AM »
I can do it fine but my feet turn out like a duck to maintain balance.
Turning your feet out opens up your hips. That is the correct way to squat.

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Re: The Third World Squat
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2011, 02:48:23 PM »
Yeah, the gramps in the image is doing a partial Western squat. The correct form for a full Asian squat includes the toes pointed outwards, as shown in the lighthearted video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWTmg4dHiKg&feature=player_embedded#!

Notes on the video: full squat sitting is not just Asian, it's also African and ancient European. It was not invented ca. 300 BCE in India--it predates the human race and is used by all primates, not just humans.