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Diet and nutrition / Re: Sunflower oil
« on: December 10, 2020, 08:11:22 AM »
Note that that figure is for tallow from grain fed beef.  The figures I've seen for grass fed beef are in the 2:1 range.

Awesome, Warren Drew!! I'm getting 5 lbs. 100% grassfed tallow this Saturday at the farmers market! YEAH!!

Also, interesting to note from the first link, the only sources of EPA and DHA omega 3s are from fish oils. Looks like they're probably the best bet to source your omega 3s.....apparently all PUFA oils (polyunsaturated fatty acid oil), ie corn oil, canola oil, are pro inflamatory and are bad for your health. So basically omega 6 oils are pro inflam, and omega3s are anti inflam.

Hm, that is interesting! We do eat mackerel or saury at least twice a week, so that should do it. However, I can't imagine all Paleo man had access to fish, so maybe not that much of it is needed? That is also interesting about inflammatory oils!

P.S. I think I might have find a way to get mutton fat (actually lamb fat) at the farmers market!

ETA: I just found this great table that shows different fats and their omega ratio (scroll down for the table):

ETA2: I just found this as well about how much essential fatty acids we actually need:
Current reviews and textbooks call the omega-6 linoleic acid and the omega-3 alpha-linolenic acid “essential fatty acids” (EFA) and cite the EFA requirement as one to four percent of calories. Research suggests, however, that the omega-6 arachidonic acid (AA) and the omega-3 docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) are the only fatty acids that are truly essential. Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) occurs in fish products but is probably not a normal constituent of the mammalian body, and in excess it interferes with essential AA metabolism.

...For women who are seeking to conceive, pregnant, or lactating, the EFA requirement may be as high as one percent of calories. In other healthy adults, however, the requirement is infinitesimal if it exists at all. The best sources of EFAs are liver, butter, and egg yolks, especially from animals raised on pasture.

..An excess of linoleate from vegetable oil will interfere with the production of DHA while an excess of EPA from fish oil will interfere with the production and utilization of AA. EFAs are polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) that contribute to oxidative stress. Vitamin E and other antioxidant nutrients cannot fully protect against oxidative stress induced by dietary PUFAs. Therefore, the consumption of EFAs should be kept as close to the minimum requirement as is practical while still maintaining an appetizing and nutritious diet.

I checked the two that it said ARE essential, and they are both available in grass-fed meats, eggs (and dairy).
big thanks for your post

Diet and nutrition / Re: Breast cancer
« on: December 10, 2020, 08:09:36 AM »
indeed that's very helpful. thanks a lot. my wife started to battle with breast cancer recently and any information is appreciated. we're now doing our best to deal with it.

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