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Diet and nutrition / How thin is too thin...
« on: June 10, 2010, 08:39:47 PM »
Hi everyone,

I haven't been on the board for awhile. After reading the usual dietary nonsense sometimes I feel a need to come here just to read what other paleo-type folks are talking about. Very reassuring.

Anyhoos, I've been pretty strictly paleo for about a year. Took me many years before that trying to be paleo and not getting it done, so about a year really paleo. Not real strict, but 95-98% paleo eating.

I used to weigh 155 in high school, then gradually gained weight until I was 165 or thereabouts. Any more and I start getting a gut, which happened a few times.

After going paleo, I started losing weight and now am around 145. I'm 6'1" and thinner than what people consider normal these days. Of course, the median is really kind of fat by historical standards.

I had one friend get kind of weird about it like I was way too thin. I think they were just judging me by their standards. I feel perfectly healthy, more so than ever, have lots of energy and by all apparent standards in great shape.

I'm curious if anyone else has dropped weight to below their 'normal' range, perhaps even below their lowest previous weight? I've read about people not losing as much weight as they want, but not much about that people lose more weight than they want.

I feel like I eat a lot of food, the usual paleo fare and don't scrimp on portions. If anything I think I eat too much fruits and carbs by typical paleo standards so wondering why I don't maintain a higher weight.

Diet and nutrition / Printable paleo foods list
« on: February 11, 2010, 08:23:53 PM »
I'm wondering if any one has a nice PDF or something that I could print out of paleo diet foods and not allowed foods. In my family, my significant other will sometimes conveniently forget the food I don't eat and prepare dishes with stuff that I don't really want to eat but sometimes do out of hunger, or a feeling that I don't want to reject food.

If I have a list on the refrigerator, it's kind of hard to pretend you don't know what's on there.

Diet and nutrition / Too much weight loss..
« on: February 08, 2010, 07:55:37 PM »
Hi all,

I've been fairly paleo for about 3-4 months now. By fairly, I mean my diet is almost totally paleo. I eat fairly strictly in terms of what I eat, though I probably tend to eat more carbs in the form of fruits than is the norm from what I perceive.

I started out about 160-65 lbs. I'm 6'1", fairly slim build. I'm now down to 146. My weight has been dropping pretty regularly about a pound a week or two. I was surprised to see it at 146.

I weighed 155 in high school and have never really gotten much beyond 165 in my whole life.

I've had a few friends exclaim how thin I looked. I feel like I eat plenty of food, my energy level is decent, not spectacular, but better than my SAD diet days for sure.

My BMI is down to around 19 now.

Just wondering if anyone else had this, that their weight dropped down more than they were expecting? I don't think it's a problem but still wasn't looking to be really gaunt or anything. I'm working out now so starting to get a little more muscular.

Miscellaneous / What else do you do that's paleo?
« on: January 11, 2010, 08:37:26 AM »
Hi all,

I'm curious in what other ways, outside of food, people on this forum are using paleo concepts to change their lives, or what other things you do that would be considered paleo?

As a working definition, paleo in this context would mean changing your lifestyle in some way in order to more closely mimic or be in alignment with the the norms of the paleolithic era.

For instance, I feed my cat a diet that's pretty much designed for her biology. My cat was paleo before I was.
I just ordered a sunrise simulator to start the day with a gradually increasing light source as my alarm clock.
I've started doing some high intensity sprints when I exercise.

Food Journals / Torque's food log
« on: January 11, 2010, 08:32:13 AM »
Guess I thought I'd start a food log. Why the heck not.

I had a gluten-free cupcake today. I was a bit hungry and hanging out at a public spot. Not a great idea. The cupcake tasted like eating a cup of sugar. Not quite what I expected it would taste like.

I've been pretty paleo for about 2 and a half months now. I've been losing weight steadily. I'm about 147 lbs. for a 6'1" male down from the 160-165 I'd been at for the past few years. I'm fairly thin naturally but it's been a bit disconcerting. I weigh less now than I did in high school on average.

My energy level is pretty good and getting better. I'm able to sleep now through the night whereas pre-paleo I would rise to urinate at least once every night. I think this is a sign my sugar metabolism is getting better balanced.

So, today's food journal:
bacon, eggs, green smoothie (dark greens, egg white protein, raspberries, banana)
almond butter celery
beef rib, butternut squash
couple of small apples
dried mango slices

Recipes and meal photos / Pemmican recipes
« on: December 21, 2009, 10:27:19 PM »
Does anyone have any pemmican recipes? I tried making some a couple of weeks ago but it didn't come out too well. My wife made some a couple of years ago that she says was marinated before grinding the jerky.

I need some travel food for holidays as I'm going to be away from the kitchen for a week and at the mercy of whomever I'm staying with.

Diet and nutrition / Low carb, no carb, what's the scoop?
« on: December 13, 2009, 10:10:47 AM »
Hi all,

I've got a lot of the basics around Paleo understood and in place. Now I'm starting to focus on carbs.
There's several things I would like to figure out. One is to figure out pretty easily how many carbs I'm consuming now. I'm thinking people must use websites for food caloric content.
Second, I'm not clear on what's considered low carb? I'm thinking it's around 35g carb a day or less. Plus there are foods that are high glycemic which are less desirable to eat. So, if you are eating low-carb, what might a typical day's worth of carbs look like in terms of content?
Third, there's the no-carb thing. I'm thinking of getting Primal Body-Primal Mind.
Energy level is definitely a problem for me. It's changed positively in the past few days, now I'm needing to dial it in around carb consumption.

Diet and nutrition / Cooking methods
« on: December 11, 2009, 10:45:12 AM »
Hi all,

I've been adapting to the paleo diet and as a consequence find myself doing a fair amount of frying, and some oven baking.

I have this little gizmo that gives my heart rate and I find it's confirming my impression of my heart rate being higher than normal.

I'm not ready to do raw paleo though I'm aware of the health benefits some have found doing it. There's some research about factors created in foods called AGE's that are problematical for your health and longevity.

Just wondering in general how people are cooking their meat?

Food Journals / How not to make pemmican
« on: December 09, 2009, 10:25:12 AM »
I seem to have made a batch of pemmican that's no good. I thought I'd post my experience as it was definitely not the result I want to get, perhaps it will be helpful.

My wife and I have made pemmican before successfully but it's been quite a while since our last batch. Since she's not paleo, this time I was on my own.

I wanted to make my own dehydrator just like the $10 jerky maker, so proceeded to get a box, a light and so forth.
Once I had it all set up, I hung the meat inside. My setup was too cool and it took me a couple of days of adjustments to get it consistently at 115 degrees.

When I removed the jerky, I noticed there was some fatty sections on the meat that I hadn't noticed when hanging it. These areas were kind of juicy in the sense that they oozed moisture when squeezed. I would normally get lean meat but somehow didn't get as lean as optimal.

I ground up the jerky, added the rendered suet and had pemmican. Unfortunately, the pemmican gives me hot sweats and cold chills when I eat it and a long sleepless night. I think the fat went rancid on the meat.

Research / A couple of interesting articles about wheat and civilization
« on: December 01, 2009, 04:17:34 PM »
I thought these two articles by Sayer Ji were very interesting. In particular it answered some questions about why it was so hard to get free of wheat and grains when I started out to go paleo.

Below the tip of the “Gluten Iceberg,” we might find these opiate-like peptides to be responsible for bread’s general popularity as  a “comfort food”, and our use of phrases like “I love bread,” or  “this bread is to die for” to be indicative of wheat’s narcotic properties.  I believe a strong argument can be made that the agricultural revolution that occurred approximately 10-12,000 years ago as we shifted from the Paleolithic into the Neolithic era was precipitated as much by environmental necessities and human ingenuity, as it was by the addictive qualities of psychoactive peptides in the grains themselves.

Since the advent of homo sapiens 2.5 million years ago our bodies have survived on a hunter and gatherer diet, where foods were consumed in whole form, and raw!  Corn, Soy and Cow's Milk have only just been introduced into our diet, and therefore are “experimental” food sources which given the presence of toxic lectins, endocrine disruptors, anti-nutrients, enzyme inhibitors, indigestible gluey proteins, etc, don’t appear to make much biological sense to consume in large quantities - and perhaps, as is my belief, given their deleterious effects on health, they should not be consumed at all.

Miscellaneous / Cost of your diet
« on: November 16, 2009, 08:40:31 PM »
Hi all,

I'm wondering what it costs you for all those great paleo meals. I've been attempting paleo for awhile and only recently actually got successful with it.

When I'm 'carbing' it, I tend to have a lot of snack type of meals purchased on the go. Probably a blood sugar kind of thing. That type of expenditure alone would cost $100 a month average just on impulse purchases.

That type of buying has disappeared except for the occasional cup of herbal tea. Overall my grocery bill has either stayed the same or declined a little.

I'm wondering what people spend on average for the week or month.

Introductions / New to board
« on: November 08, 2009, 08:59:15 PM »
Hi all,

I've been paleo-knowledgeable for some years but not been able to transition successfully into the diet until recently. In the past few months I've noticed increasing joint pain so I've become determined to find a way to change my diet to banish grains and other modern foods.

In the past, when I've tried paleo, or other types of diets like vegan etc., I would find myself hungry or wishing I could eat something snackey.

This time around I discovered green smoothies. It's a good way to get a good load of green stuff into the body first thing in the morning. From there my appetite is controlled and my desire to stray into grain-based foods is mostly eliminated.

From there, adding some eggs, fish or meat is fairly simple. It was going at it from the other direction that didn't work, meaning lots of meat throughout the day.

It's like the base of my food pyramid is green stuff, then protein, nuts, fruits and the like. Works for me somehow. Take a raw-food vegan diet, add some fire, some meat, take out the non-paleo foods and that's my diet.

That's the only I can explain it. Anyhoos, it's been a long journey from being a macrobiotic vegetarian, to whole foodie kind of anything goes, to Zone diet, to paleo, then back and forth a bunch of times knowing my diet was not right but not able to stick to being grain and dairy free.

I think this time I got it nailed. Already seeing some nice, positive changes in my physical and mental well-being.

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