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Vitamins and Supplements / Re: A good argument for supplementing
« on: March 28, 2011, 09:11:20 AM »
You nailed it. You have to be your own health advocate. I see my doctor every year for a general checkup but outside of that I do my own research and request my own tests for things like vitamin D levels, cholesterol, inflammation markers, etc...
I'm coming up on my 50th birthday and I
Want to remain this healthy for at
Least another 50 which will require vigilance on my part. I don't allow my physician to make my health choices but part of being vigilant is using medical doctors and their tests to keep abreast of my health.

As a relative newbie to this WoE I'm curious as to what vitamins and supplements you feel are necessary to enhance your Paleo Diet, or if you don't take any why you feel you don't need to.

I am currently not taking any supplements at all, and am throwing this out to try to get some opinions to help me decide whether I'm making the best decision for myself!

In the past I have at times used supplements - a couple of years ago I was taking a multivitamin, a calcium + vit D, and a fish oil, but I eventually discontinued.  Then I took a high strength B-complex plus C for a while.  Neither of these seemed to make any difference to the way I felt so in recent months I haven't bothered  with pills at all, although I have on ocassion added wheatgrass and/or spirilina to my smoothiesl!

I take quite a few and plan on continuing to do so. Our food cannot give us everything we need to live a long and healthy life due to many factors but mostly due to pollution and overfarming which has sucked the nutrients out of the soil.

Vitamins and Supplements / Re: What Meds Do You Take?
« on: March 27, 2011, 03:39:34 PM »
I only take one - my inhaler, and I'm hoping to do away with that through this diet.

Vitamins and Supplements / Re: Vitamin D supplement - side effects?
« on: March 27, 2011, 02:01:37 PM »
I felt very tired when I first started taking a D3 supplement and when I researched, I found that to process vitamin D you use up magnesium. So, if you are low in magnesium and you supplement vitamin D, you might end up even lower in magnesium. Might be worth looking into?

I take magnesium as well.
No matter what your diet is, the need to supplement exists. Food cannot provide all that we need for optimal health.

Vitamins and Supplements / A good argument for supplementing
« on: March 27, 2011, 11:40:00 AM »
Here is my argument. Paleolithic man didn't have the pollution of the air, sea and land that we have today. He got more than sufficient sun (hence, plenty of Vitamin D) - something we don't and can't get enough of because of the depletion of the ozone layer. The land has been destroyed by chemicals and heavy minerals and depleted of it's nutrients so that the food that IS produced on it doesn't have the same nutrient density that it did then. Paleolithic man got Omega 3's from fish. You can't eat the fish any more. It's toxic. If you ate the amount of fish necessary to keep your omega 3 levels where they should be you would die from mercury poisoning. The assault on our bodies from pollutants of all types via air, water and food is such that we need EXTRA anti-oxidants to combat the damage caused to our cells by these external forces.

In short - we don't live in the paleolithic era. Our planet is less hospitable to our species than it was then thanks to our own stupidity and we have to deal with that. The meat they ate was more lean. The vegetables and fruits they ate were more nutrient dense and didn't contain chemicals. Even "organic" foods are "allowed" by the FDA to contain certain amounts of chemicals, which is plain ridiculous but it's probably a concession to the fact that there are no places left on this planet that haven't been affected by industrialized society.

So, my argument is, that we cannot receive the same level of nutrition from the same foods that were eaten millions of years ago because our species has polluted the planet to a point where that is impossible and the only way to make up for what was lost is to supplement to get what we can't eat.

Vitamins and Supplements / Re: Vitamin D supplement - side effects?
« on: March 27, 2011, 06:37:28 AM »
Since I don't get nearly as much sunlight as a cave man would have, I decided to try a regular supplement.  Since I didn't want to have to take a pill every day, I got some 5000 IU pills - the largest I could find at my grocer - planning to take one a week or so.

Anyway, I noticed a few weird effects in the couple days after taking the pill.

I got a bunch of twinges that lasted a few minutes each in various parts of my body.  I get these occasionally, but not so many so frequently.  I don't mind them, but I kind of wonder what they indicate is going on.

I also got temporary arthritis like symptoms in my end thumb joints, similar to what I get when I have a lot of nightshades.  This one does bother me.  I did not eat any nightshades.

Anyone else ever noticed anything like this?  Any thoughts on what's going on?

For what it's worth, I've been getting 30-120 minutes of sun on face and hands, and sometimes forearms, every other day or so.

It is unlikely that Vitamin D is causing your symptoms, especially since you had them before you began taking it. My wife and I both take aound 6500 IU a day and I had my D levels checked about 6 months ago - they were optimal. If you are curious, have your Vitamin D3 levels checked (simple blood test). The reading should be somewhere between 50 and 100 (I forget the exact terminology but you can google it).

Introductions / Re: New to paleo and a marathoner. Have questions
« on: March 27, 2011, 05:50:55 AM »
Ever run a marathon though? Very high energy consumption. Prolly use Gatorade or powerade for those.
Fat is the fuel of aerobic activity and it has more than twice the amount of available energy per kcal.
Carbs fuel anaerobic activities,ie. weight lifting, sprinting, etc... Short intense bouts of output.

In reality, running for that long is catabolic. Your body is actually eating itself.

Ya, that's why I don't do too many of them. My next race is a nice short one but intense - a 5k that I'm hoping to knock out in 21 - 21:30
I'll be at my max for the majority of that. Quite different than a marathon for sure. I'll train for the marathon with this diet (it's in October) and as long as the training goes well, I won't worry about it. That's what training is for after all.

Nice meeting you all.

Introductions / Re: New to paleo and a marathoner. Have questions
« on: March 26, 2011, 06:31:22 PM »
I have nothing against fat. Good stuff. Big fan of olive
Oil, of course and I like almond milk, nuts, various seeds, etc... And of course, steak, chicken and pork as well as other meats. I suppose that fruits will be more than adequate for most of my runs. Ever run a marathon though? Very high energy consumption. Prolly use Gatorade or powerade for those.

Introductions / Re: New to paleo and a marathoner. Have questions
« on: March 26, 2011, 03:30:27 PM »
So what about things like yams and potatoes? I don't really "get" the potatoe think considering they HAD to have been around in Paleolithic times and most likely would have been cooked in one fashion or another

Exercises / Any other endurance runners here?
« on: March 26, 2011, 01:24:24 PM »
If so, I'd like to hear how you've adapted the paleo diet to meet your caloric and carb requirements

Introductions / New to paleo and a marathoner. Have questions
« on: March 26, 2011, 01:09:56 PM »
So I was reading about the paleo diet in "the immortality edge" and did some more research and decided to go with it. I started yesterday and since I love all the foods that are in the diet I'm happy to go with it and don't mind at all giving up the CRAP in my diet. I do have one question though.

What is the best way to replace the carbs I need to run?
Bananas and other fruits are obviously one way but are there some types of vegetables that can approximate the carb return of pasta while remaining within the guidelines of the paleo diet or will I need to "cheat" every now and again? I ran 50 miles this week and that's a heavy duty calorie eater right there

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