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Introductions / Re: Hi I'm new and pretty clueless :)
« on: May 25, 2011, 07:49:18 AM »
I eat at a Chinese restaurant once a week.  We get a lot of "small steamer buns" from which I eat the centers, which are just ground pork with a bit of scallons, and discard the outsides.  I know, gauche, but we're regulars so they don't comment.  We also get some stir fried dishes with mostly meat and a little vegetables, from which I remove as much sauce as possible before eating them.  I'm sure I'm getting a little nonpaleo vegetable oil, but I get plenty of omega 3s and saturated fats the rest of the week.  We skip dishes like the sweet and sour stuff with wheat in the breading and sugar in the sauce; they're not really Chinese anyway.

I think the key to eating at restaurants is being willing to discard the nonpaleo stuff.  You can get some kind of meat in most cuisines.  The real problem is that fats are in short supply in the currently popular types of restaurants, but one can always get those at home.

Edit:  and welcome!

Thanks for the suggestion! The steam buns I can only order during dim sum or a specialty chinese place, but that sounds like something I can do. I'll just have someone else eat the bun hehe. I have been taking the rest of the things home, like rice, and who knows what, so that I dont leave it at the restaurant. I love chinese broccoli and I am not sure how they make it. They say it is garlic flavored but whats all the clear sauce at the bottom of the plate? I will have to remember to clean off the sauce from everything. The things that are usually ordered: pork with bean curd (no more for me), kung pow chicken (can I eat that?), some kind of garlic vegetables, beef and broccoli, and some kind of soup (which I will no longer be having.)

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Introductions / Re: Hi I'm new and pretty clueless :)
« on: May 25, 2011, 07:44:19 AM »
Sashimi is paleo and so damn good...

I am japanese and I dont eat raw fish LOL  :-[

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Miscellaneous / Re: How long have you been doing Paleo?
« on: May 25, 2011, 07:43:11 AM »
I've been paleo since June 2008, so just under 3 years now.

I was 48 when I started, so I had various problems generally associated with "aging".  The constant painful gas, chronic back fatigue, occasional hemorrhoids, and the beginnings of weight gain that was starting to happen to me are all gone now.  My presbyopia has stopped progressing and partially reversed; so have my skin wrinkles.  I need less exercise to maintain a moderate level of fitness.  My hay fever is much milder.  I'm sure there's other stuff I can't think of at the moment.

Negative side effects?  I got "low carb flu" - headaches and fatigue - the first time I went into ketosis, but that was long ago.  Some nonpaleo foods, such as gluten, will cause intestinal cramps and diarrhea if I cheat with them.  As long as I stay strict paleo, my cold symptoms are nearly nonexistent, but it doesn't take much in the way of sugar or starch to take out my immune system and make me sick.  Note that the sugar in fruit seems to be okay presumably because it's accompanied by an appropriate amount of vitamin C.

So basically, I have negative side effects if I cheat.  The solution is not to cheat.  The positive effects can be summarized as, "it makes me healthy".

Thanks for sharing Warren. I had no idea it could help with all that you described... I feel like I have so much more to learn, one book/forum at a time I guess! I am sad about not being able to eat my veggies or dairies but maybe I can start incorporating them later on if I do not have any problems with it? It is pretty funny how our body makes us suffer to get a point across. :)

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Miscellaneous / Re: How long have you been doing Paleo?
« on: May 25, 2011, 07:38:58 AM »
I have been on my Paleo-ish diet/lifestyle since the middle of March.  I went to my doctor for my annual check-up, 3 years since my last, and discovered that I was up to 265 lbs, (apparently that is overweight), was borderline diabetic, had a trace of blood in my urine and had Atrial Fibrillation.  This is on top of taking the standard US middle age male drugs for cholesterol, and high blood pressure for several years.
My Doctor had suggested this diet several years ago and I just laughed when I saw it.  What not beans, potatoes and bread!  That ain't going to happen.
Well I started in mid March.  Oh well, this meat and vegetable thing, how bad could it be???  Do you mean I can't have corn, peas and green beans?  And no catsup on my ground beef?  No fried chicken?  No tartar sauce on my fish?  No more pizza?  No more grouper sandwiches?
Well, I have adapted and am doing well.  I do have my own cheats/treats that may or may not have any effect, but I suspect we all do.  In 2 months I have lost 30 lbs, and my Dr. was very pleased with my progress.  Even taken me off one of my drugs.  Hopefully we'll get my A-Fib taken care of soon and I can get back to eating a greater variety of veggies.
The most difficult part for us is that we live on a sailboat in Florida and travel quite a bit.  Eating out is also a challenge, but I just do the best I can and stretch the guidelines from time to time. 

Wm

Wow you have a great story Wm! What are your cheats and how often do you do it? Are you incorporating exercise or was it just a change in your diet?

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Food Journals / Re: Total newb but loving it already
« on: May 25, 2011, 07:30:29 AM »
I had an uh oh moment... any thoughts?? below taken from my Paleo blog.

http://ayamiyummi.blogspot.com/2011/05/paleo-day-10-lesson-learned-do-not-skip.html

Paleo Day 10: Lesson learned, do not skip meals
Yesterday was an eye opener.

6:40am - I had my 2 whole eggs with uncured bacon in the morning, felt full when lunch time came and kept in mind what the others were telling me. "You don't have to eat if you don't feel hungry."

3:30pm - still not hungry and driving home from home I started feeling weird. Like sleepy and couldnt concentrate on driving. It started getting worse and worse and so I thought it was because I haven't eaten?

and around 4:00pm, I had to stop and get something to eat. Drove by Carl's and got the chicken sandwich wrapped in lettuce. Felt much better after I ate, as if nothing was wrong. HMMM... ???? Is this normal??

6:00pm dinner - I wasnt hungry because I had just ate but here we go, at a chinese restaurant again. Had lots of chinese veggies and a pork chop (no breading).

Exercise - I didnt feel tired at all so I was on my treadmill watching American Idol for 60 min. 3 miles. Cal burned 250 (supposidly)
Did 40 sit ups x5. I guess I am getting stronger :)

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Diet and nutrition / Re: What to drink?
« on: May 25, 2011, 07:19:04 AM »
Quote from: ayami

My thing is.... I am not hungry at all throughout my day. If I am not suppose to count calories.. then what I am eating is ok as long as I am full? Just incorporate more fat?

Bingo. As simple as possible. Eat when hungry drink when thirsty. If man made it dont eat it. Biggest thing is get as much fat as possible. Saturated fat. Grass fed beef is the best way. If you are opposed to eating it decide why and the decide if you are still opposed to it. Otherwise fatty fish is great as well. As an example when I buy hamburger I get 73/27 and my fat % Is about 70% of total cals. My bloodwork is fine :)

Talkurt, I don't eat red meat because I have trouble digesting it and it usually comes back up. I've tried avoiding it as much as possible for years now. When I used to eat it 15 years ago, I used to get it well done and that was just too tough to chew lol. I want to try making meatloaf with turkey or ground pork. Thats ok right?

Yep, sorry i realize i that came off a bit snippy. Didn't mean it to :) As Jay was saying you might try grass fed stuff it has a totally different taste and texture to it, as well as being completely natural (ei not having any fillers in it) We like beef here for the fat content and the omega 3 to 6 ratio. All meat is fair game, just some is better than others.

I mention to analyze your dislike for beef just as a self checking mechanism. Some people come on here and dont eat it because its "bad for you" or whatever other reason. Especially with this diet sometimes we need to reevaluate our regular thoughts about food. (i know im a bit engineering minded lol) I dont at all want to sound rude but red in meat or blood being gross is just something in your head. Its something you heard someone say once. Just like the old line "Artery clogging saturated fat" its common knowledge, it just happens to be wrong.

haha no Talkurt, I didnt think you came off snippy at all. I think of blood as dead and I am an animal lover and hate to know that I'm eating it. I just have to be in denial when eating chicken and other things but again, I prefer them ground up and no in its original form. And stupid me, I went and watched food, inc. After that I thought about losing all meat in my diet... the red is blood and thats what makes me not want it. I think I will try to incorporate beef in 2 weeks? But something I can cook throughout and maybe later on I can level up into something more *gulp* uncooked.

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Food Journals / Re: Total newb but loving it already
« on: May 25, 2011, 07:12:42 AM »
At first it's best to limit nuts so that you eat enough at meals.

Later you can use them for an afternoon snack or whenever something light would be handy or as an emergency meal (I carry some in my bag). It's also a good idea to take out the amount for the snack and not go over it - and that's really just going to be a few nuts all up most of the time. If you need more than that then you need bigger meals

thats a good idea. I always tend to grab 5, and then 5 more, and then 5 more lol. I should keep them in my bag because just in case!!

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Diet and nutrition / Re: What to drink?
« on: May 24, 2011, 02:39:08 PM »

Wow Jay! I feel like I can count on you for many of my questions since I feel you know where I am coming from (with the asian restaurants and all). I do now realize that I can no longer go to ramen places (you are speaking of the VERY YUMMY Santouka in Torrance?) and no more of my favorite dim sum... but you know what? My health and weight is worth the sacrifice. It is hard to eat japanese and chinese food from now on but maybe once in a while as a cheat?

You are correct in everything you said. I am still looking in the recipe forums for something that may fit what I like. I do not eat beef! And yes, the way I cook needs to change but I am not sure on what to do so these suggestions are helping me tremendously. Today I took everyones suggestion and made bacon with TWO WHOLE eggs hehe.... I have been buying free range or cage free eggs. Are they the same or should i be looking for something that specifically says pasturized?

Ok no more glass noodles for me (SAD). Anything else I should know regarding chinese food? lol. Any recommendations on what I can order when I am there?

Hello Ayami!

Glad to be of help. I agree that the health benefits that come with avoiding neolithic foods are worth it even if it means no more noodles, rice, and dim sum. I love almost all Asian foods, Thai being the exception. So yeah, most of that is gone from my diet but I still enjoy sashimi and Korean BBQ now and then. I just have to be careful what I eat, avoid rice or rice products, and I personally avoid soy at all costs, which is tough in almost any Asian restaurant.

Regarding beef, a couple things to consider. First, if supermarket beef bothers your digestion, get some real grass fed beef or bison and try that. It has a whole different taste and texture but it is very good for you. The caveat is that it is best cooked rare...very rare. Otherwise it can get extremely tough. That is not a problem for me, I even like beef tartare now and then, which is kind of like ceviche made with beef. I like beef sashimi now and then too but rare and raw beef is an acquired taste just like raw fish is for gaijins.  ;D

Next, you may find that the reduction in carbs from eating Paleo takes care of the digestion issues you have with beef. Give the diet a chance to work its magic and you'll probably find a lot of the little health issues you might have had (like not being able to digest beef) slowly disappear. Cheap carbs are the problem here. Give it some time then try beef again and see how it goes. My guess is that after an absence of grains (wheat, rice, corn, etc.) and sugars in your diet for awhile, you will be able to eat beef without issues. I had all kinds of digestions issues until I virtually eliminated carbs from my diet.

Regarding eggs, there are all sorts of different kinds of eggs but unfortunately the labeling of them is virtually unregulated and can be very misleading. The best eggs are ones that you know for sure are "pastured" (not pasteurized). Pastured eggs are from chickens that are not only allowed to live outdoors where they have access to grasses and bugs to eat, but are forced to live a significant portion of their lives in a pasture. Free range eggs come from chickens that are allowed to go outdoors but studies of this indicates that the chickens actually rarely do go outdoors, making most of these eggs no different from factory eggs. There are some decent articles on eggs at these two links:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbsuperfoods/a/cagefreeeggsdef.htm

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Relish/Free-Range-Versus-Pastured-Chicken-And-Eggs.aspx

As I said, I buy pastured eggs at the Torrance Farmer's Market that come from a farm in Temecula and you can actually talk to the people that raise them right there. They also sell butchered roosters that are pastured until they reach slaughter size (74 days I think). The free range eggs you are buying COULD be okay, but there is no way to really know.

I'll have to think about the Chinese food dilemma some more. I've given up on even going into a Chinese restaurant since I went Paleo. Almost everything there that seems like it might be safe actually has sugar, corn starch, soy, and/or PUFA oils. If I come up with any ideas, I'll let you know.

Cheers!


Uhoh... am i not suppose to be eating corn??? I thought it was a vegetable so I've been eating it on my salad. LOL... please clarify!!

Now about raw foods... I cannot do raw foods because of the blood. I get sick to my stomach if there is any kind of redness in meat. I still cannot touch raw foods with my bare hands... and thought I am japanese japanese, I will not eat sashimi (and I have tried!). Maybe because I'm an animal lover and I can only eat meat if they don't remind me of the actual animal? But just thinking about medium rare... (pale face).

Oh and the chickens on the racks in chinese restaurants.... forgetaboutit! x_x

Anyway, thank you for clarifying the egg issue. I had no idea!! I will have to make sure I buy the right ones, those tricky, sneaky grocery stores...  :'(

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Miscellaneous / Re: How long have you been doing Paleo?
« on: May 24, 2011, 10:51:20 AM »
1) Since last September
2) lost a little weight, easier to maintain weight, never get sick, sleep better, less anxiety, less hunger!
3) thirsty all the time; difficult to eat out; difficult in social situations.  No tolerance for alcohol!

is alcohol still ok to consume?

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Diet and nutrition / Re: What to drink?
« on: May 24, 2011, 10:49:00 AM »
I love drinking from a straw but I really dont like drinking out of open containers at work. (Dirty particles in the air lol). I have no missed my rice yet but when I do, I want to try the cauliflower method. Thank you so much!

I use a cup similar to this at my work (I think the same thing about the air quality). I always drink so much more!

omg where did you get that cup???

I usually get the ground pork at Henry's market and I've seen them (expensive) at albertsons. They do not have the nutritional information sometimes if it is the store brand so I am iffy about them. I love ground turkey though so I will have to try it. Never made it without bread crumbs so I'll have to do some research.  ;D

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Miscellaneous / Re: How long have you been doing Paleo?
« on: May 24, 2011, 09:50:08 AM »
Since around February? I started because I was already eating mostly paleo and I had talked to so many people about it. I talk about the changes I experienced on my blog: http://paleoadventure.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/positive-changes/.

I have not experienced any bad side effects unless these count:
1. I have to explain how I eat to everyone and answer a million questions.
2. Social eating situations are definitely more difficult now that I have to custom order at restaurants and decline eating certain things (and possibly hurt someone's feelings).
3. I end up feeling awful if I do eat that cupcake, and various other foods I used to really enjoy.


Your side effects are what I am not looking forward to LOL. My weaknesses are/were cupcakes and frozen yogurt!

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Miscellaneous / Re: How long have you been doing Paleo?
« on: May 24, 2011, 09:49:20 AM »
How long have you been doing Paleo and why did you start?
Just over 2 yrs. I started to see if it would help my exercise induced asthma.

What changes have you experienced?
Cured of asthma! I walk around at less than 10% bodyfat without the struggle most experience. Increased rate of recovery from training. Energy levels are high, consistent and I NEVER snack or bonk out in the mountains.

Have you experienced any bad side effects?
NONE!



wow great job and so happy to hear that paleo can help so greatly. Who knew paleo can cure asthma!

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Miscellaneous / Re: How long have you been doing Paleo?
« on: May 24, 2011, 09:47:16 AM »
I think there might be a stickied thread on this somewhere.  However:

How long have you been doing Paleo and why did you start?

My join date on here is August 4, 2010, so a little before that.  About 10 months in, now.

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What changes have you experienced?

Acne almost entirely gone. (cut dairy)
Random shooting pains through my joints are gone unless I eat a lot of nightshades.
Hair grows faster and thicker - I didn't have a problem with thinning hair, but it took forever to grow it out.
Mood improvements, no more anxiety disorder. (cut out excess sugar/carbs)
No more brain fog (cut out gluten)
The fatigue that plagued me for years is gone. (cut gluten/excess carbs)
Improved HDL cholesterol levels.
Body composition changes (same weight, but less fat and more muscle)
Faster recovery after physical activity, so that exercise is fun!
No more migraines, which had become a daily event before I switched to this WOE.
Better sleep and needing less sleep.
IBS-type symptoms gone

This is mostly on grain fed meat and conventionally raised fruit and veggies.  Even if you can't do 100% "clean" food, Paleo can get you in better health.

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Have you experienced any bad side effects?

Only from user error early on, like eating too much fruit and nuts, or not eating enough in general.  I had constipation and severe fatigue/lightheadedness at first because of that.  I also was coming off of a very low protein, low fat diet, so it took a little longer for me to fully transition to the lower carbs on paleo.

The first time I transitioned to ketosis, I had a major headache and foggy feeling for a few days until I became ketoadapted. 

Any discomfort has been temporary, and totally worth it.  Even with the above transition "pains", I was feeling worlds better than when I was eating the SAD.

Oh WOW, most of what you listed, I suffered from.... this is very good to know but I am now having problems going to the bathroom. How did you fix that? I usually take fiber pills but maybe that would not be a great thing to do on the Paleo diet?

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Diet and nutrition / Re: What to drink?
« on: May 24, 2011, 09:44:21 AM »
Quote from: ayami

My thing is.... I am not hungry at all throughout my day. If I am not suppose to count calories.. then what I am eating is ok as long as I am full? Just incorporate more fat?

Bingo. As simple as possible. Eat when hungry drink when thirsty. If man made it dont eat it. Biggest thing is get as much fat as possible. Saturated fat. Grass fed beef is the best way. If you are opposed to eating it decide why and the decide if you are still opposed to it. Otherwise fatty fish is great as well. As an example when I buy hamburger I get 73/27 and my fat % Is about 70% of total cals. My bloodwork is fine :)

Talkurt, I don't eat red meat because I have trouble digesting it and it usually comes back up. I've tried avoiding it as much as possible for years now. When I used to eat it 15 years ago, I used to get it well done and that was just too tough to chew lol. I want to try making meatloaf with turkey or ground pork. Thats ok right?

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Diet and nutrition / Re: What to drink?
« on: May 24, 2011, 09:34:24 AM »
Thats the way most of us here play it.  Sometimes I won't be hungry all day until the evening.  I figure, so be it, when my body gets hungry, I feed it.  And I do NOT snack, at all.  If youre not starving at 900 calories per day then you must have one of those legendary metabolisms and I'm super jealous!   :)

Also, Good calories Bad calories reads like a biology thesis most of the way through it.  Pick up his new book, Why we get fat, for a condensed and much lighter version!  Best of luck to you!

Aw dang it, I wish I knew before I purchased the book and threw away the receipt! lol

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